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Surely the bombs in London and Manchester were international news at the time, at least throughout the Western world? Next you'll tell me the average American
by Symbiote 6y ago
Surely the bombs in London and Manchester were international news at the time, at least throughout the Western world?
Next you'll tell me the average American is unaware of the 7 July bombs on the London Underground, the ETA bombs in Spain, Breivik in Norway or the sarin gas attacks in Tokyo.
- majormajor 6y agoThe average American will have probably seen some coverage of those things, but for stuff that happened years ago that aren't closely tied to ongoing, present-day in-the-US issues, they won't recall many details.
- mywittyname 6y agoEven "world news" segments in the American news largely involve America in some capacity. Maybe half of world news in the US is completely unrelated to the US. That's part of why I read the BBC for world news.
- zinekeller 6y agoNow, I know all of these events though clearly though, but I'm referring to the average populace. Yes, they might know that happened and they might be inconvenienced by it but not enough to know that (for example) the sarin attack was due to a "new religion" cult. It is like 9/11 outside America: an average person knows it enough to remember whatever inconvenience they encountered that day but not the whole details.
- whatshisface 6y agoI would guess that the average American (I really mean average here, not average among HN posters) will have heard of nothing on that list, but also not heard of any US political violence in that time period.
- zinekeller 6y agoThis. The HN crowd vastly overestimates how unknown these can be on an actual person. Even when they knew about the explosions in the (London) Docklands and in Manchester, they would only knew it to be terrorist attacks, not specifically the provisional Irish Republican Army (unrelated to the Irish Army). Edit: definitely not the Australian city of Docklands (and not any city named Manchester ouside England!)
- stretchcat 6y agoI think the [Provisional] IRA is well known in America. Every other American seems to think they are 'part Irish' and I think the average American's awareness of The Troubles is high, at least compared to other foreign conflicts (at least for Americans old enough to remember the 90s at least anyway.) Furthermore 'Irish car bombs' are a tactless but popular bar drink in America, which indicates an awareness of the conflict.
- zinekeller 6y ago> Furthermore 'Irish car bombs' are a tactless but popular bar drink in America, which indicates an awareness of the conflict. In the Atlantic parts, sure. But someone saying that others knows the history of Ireland because they knew a drink is a stretch at this point.
- stretchcat 6y agoOccasionally I've met people who wondered where the drink name came from, but everybody else in the room was always quick to explain it. Americans may not know all the nuance and details, but the basics ('there was a violent conflict between the British and Irish, particularly regarding Northern Ireland") really are widely known in my experience.
- JackFr 6y agoIf you think giving a drink a tasteless name is bad, the reality is a lot worse. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201943.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/0... Through the 70’s and 80’s much of the money and many of the guns came directly from the US. Thatcher, Reagan and to some extent Tom Clancy ended that.