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If anyone is looking for an alternative to Flo, as of iOS 13 the built-in Health app has similar functionality: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210407 https:

If anyone is looking for an alternative to Flo, as of iOS 13 the built-in Health app has similar functionality: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210407 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210407

Darkphibre 6y ago
Open inquiry: Anything out there recommended for Android or PC?
- jwlit 6y ago
  For Android, there's Clue : https://helloclue.com/ https://helloclue.com/
- zaq1 6y ago
  I would recommend Drip, which is available on F-Droid. FOSS with very minimal permissions. I'd suggest checking it for trackers with ClassyShark (also on FD). https://f-droid.org/packages/com.drip https://f-droid.org/packages/com.drip Screenshots feature a modern looking UI.
- BelenusMordred 6y ago
  Anything on f-droid is going to be good. Last time this story came up I saw a comment saying there was two prominent apps there. It's scary how many people don't immediately go for the open source alternative before checking the Google play store. Most people publishing on f-droid use their real name, have verifiable open source activity, have a professional reputation to maintain and have their apps open to world to be scrutinised. Checking F-Droid should be your first choice everytime.
  - judge2020 6y ago
    > Anything on f-droid is going to be good I fail to see how an app being on F-Droid inherently mean it’s going to be privacy-friendly.
    - BelenusMordred 6y ago
      Android SDKs themselves can be leaky and are incredibly widespread, this is a clear flaw in mobile appsec and not that well known. That said basically everything benefits from the sun shining in on it. F-Droid alerts you to anything dodgy under the hood, has reproducible builds[1] and in general has none of the complete shitshow that is playstore. In my 5EYES country Google's playstore has to secretly insert malware if the government wants it and there's no way for the end user to tell if that's the case. Tell me a common use for a mobile app and we can compare what is available on both play store and f-droid. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Reproducible_Builds/ https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Reproducible_Builds/
      - judge2020 6y ago
        I’m more pointing out how it’s not a silver bullet (and how a silver bullet for app privacy doesn’t exist); nothing is perfect and f-droid is no exception, even if it is better than Play Store. Nothing is stopping an app from uploading user data for a good purpose then selling it to third parties.
        BelenusMordred 6y ago
        > nothing is perfect and f-droid is no exception, even if it is better than Play Store Not wearing a seatbelt isn't perfect, and yet we all still do it :)
        Ntrails 6y ago
        > Not wearing a seatbelt isn't perfect, and yet we all still do it :) Provably false.
- smokey_the_bear 6y ago
  I recommend fertility friend, from their privacy policy “ FertilityFriend.com is fully funded by its VIP service fees and has been so since we started. It does not rely on any type of data trading for any of its funding or any other purpose. In other words, you are not the product. Clear and straightforward, our charting service is what we sell and nothing else.” They also have a more data driven approach to fertility than most other sources.
mtlynch 6y ago
I know of another one called POW! made by indie developer Benedicte Raae: https://www.usepow.app/ https://www.usepow.app/ The data is all client-side encrypted, so she doesn't collect any sensitive user data that could be sold or abused. I've never used it, but I think the privacy-first mission is cool.
- raae 6y ago
  Hey, this is Benedicte. If the app is not for you there is also the newsletter about privacy, menstrual health and POW!: https://www.usepow.app/newsletter https://www.usepow.app/newsletter
bmvcant 6y ago
There is a secure app called garbage bin: Open the lid, firmly grasp your iPhone, place it over the bin, open your hand and drop it. Use pen and paper and the problem is solved.
- yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
  No encryption, no backups, no on-device analysis (stats, charts), inconvenient to use: Not secure, not an app, not a good alternative.
  - etrabroline 6y ago
    >not an app That foible stands out as humorous. Why does a solution to a problem need to be a smart phone app? lol Otherwise excellent points.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
      I was specifically responding to: > There is a secure app called garbage bin hence calling out that it isn't. (But sure, I actually am fine with non-app solutions when they're actually good)

If anyone is looking for an alternative to Flo, as of iOS 13 the built-in Health app has similar functionality: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210407 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210407

Darkphibre 6y ago

Open inquiry: Anything out there recommended for Android or PC?

jwlit 6y ago
For Android, there's Clue : https://helloclue.com/ https://helloclue.com/
zaq1 6y ago
I would recommend Drip, which is available on F-Droid. FOSS with very minimal permissions. I'd suggest checking it for trackers with ClassyShark (also on FD). https://f-droid.org/packages/com.drip https://f-droid.org/packages/com.drip Screenshots feature a modern looking UI.
BelenusMordred 6y ago
Anything on f-droid is going to be good. Last time this story came up I saw a comment saying there was two prominent apps there. It's scary how many people don't immediately go for the open source alternative before checking the Google play store. Most people publishing on f-droid use their real name, have verifiable open source activity, have a professional reputation to maintain and have their apps open to world to be scrutinised. Checking F-Droid should be your first choice everytime.
- judge2020 6y ago
  > Anything on f-droid is going to be good I fail to see how an app being on F-Droid inherently mean it’s going to be privacy-friendly.
  - BelenusMordred 6y ago
    Android SDKs themselves can be leaky and are incredibly widespread, this is a clear flaw in mobile appsec and not that well known. That said basically everything benefits from the sun shining in on it. F-Droid alerts you to anything dodgy under the hood, has reproducible builds[1] and in general has none of the complete shitshow that is playstore. In my 5EYES country Google's playstore has to secretly insert malware if the government wants it and there's no way for the end user to tell if that's the case. Tell me a common use for a mobile app and we can compare what is available on both play store and f-droid. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Reproducible_Builds/ https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Reproducible_Builds/
    - judge2020 6y ago
      I’m more pointing out how it’s not a silver bullet (and how a silver bullet for app privacy doesn’t exist); nothing is perfect and f-droid is no exception, even if it is better than Play Store. Nothing is stopping an app from uploading user data for a good purpose then selling it to third parties.
      - BelenusMordred 6y ago
        > nothing is perfect and f-droid is no exception, even if it is better than Play Store Not wearing a seatbelt isn't perfect, and yet we all still do it :)
        Ntrails 6y ago
        > Not wearing a seatbelt isn't perfect, and yet we all still do it :) Provably false.
smokey_the_bear 6y ago
I recommend fertility friend, from their privacy policy “ FertilityFriend.com is fully funded by its VIP service fees and has been so since we started. It does not rely on any type of data trading for any of its funding or any other purpose. In other words, you are not the product. Clear and straightforward, our charting service is what we sell and nothing else.” They also have a more data driven approach to fertility than most other sources.

mtlynch 6y ago

I know of another one called POW! made by indie developer Benedicte Raae: https://www.usepow.app/ https://www.usepow.app/ The data is all client-side encrypted, so she doesn't collect any sensitive user data that could be sold or abused. I've never used it, but I think the privacy-first mission is cool.

raae 6y ago
Hey, this is Benedicte. If the app is not for you there is also the newsletter about privacy, menstrual health and POW!: https://www.usepow.app/newsletter https://www.usepow.app/newsletter

bmvcant 6y ago

There is a secure app called garbage bin: Open the lid, firmly grasp your iPhone, place it over the bin, open your hand and drop it. Use pen and paper and the problem is solved.

yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
No encryption, no backups, no on-device analysis (stats, charts), inconvenient to use: Not secure, not an app, not a good alternative.
- etrabroline 6y ago
  >not an app That foible stands out as humorous. Why does a solution to a problem need to be a smart phone app? lol Otherwise excellent points.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
    I was specifically responding to: > There is a secure app called garbage bin hence calling out that it isn't. (But sure, I actually am fine with non-app solutions when they're actually good)