4 ms·

Just a wild stab in the dark here but those redactions might have to do with SIGINT. Or in other words, how the UFO report came to be. Because when I saw this

Just a wild stab in the dark here but those redactions might have to do with SIGINT. Or in other words, how the UFO report came to be. Because when I saw this headline "NSA UFO Documents Index" hosted on nsa.gov, I realized why I don't care about UFO theories. Because even the NSA has given up. No sane person cares about this stuff. They will readily index it on their website to shut those lunatics up.

Abishek_Muthian 6y ago
I agree, Countries were even reluctant disclose whether MH370 was registered on their military radar in order to not reveal their capabilities.
jjtheblunt 6y ago
Agreed; that said, there's an Ancient Aliens tv series that acts serious but, I think, is mostly recognized for being hilarious...so frivolous I've actually watched it because it's just so laughable.
- smolder 6y ago
  There are people out there vulnerable to the BS due to ignorance that could be shown how to apply skepticism, or taught more about science/history, but the bullshit is just as prominent and available, or more so. Your peers may be the right combination of smart and knowledgeable to be immune, but it's best not to assume that it's harmless in general to broadcast ancient aliens style junk.
- FillardMillmore 6y ago
  I was on my honeymoon with my fiancee and at the end of the night, we liked to relax by opening a bottle of champagne and watching Ancient Aliens. Don't get me wrong, both of us believe in the possibility of life in outer space but that show was funnier than most modern sitcoms. Heck, even Monster Quest was more believable.
ghostbrainalpha 6y ago
I don't know how you can't at least find this document interesting. It's a first hand account of what was basically a dogfight between a US pilot and a UFO over Iran. https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/ufo/routing_slip_ufo_iran.pdf https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/decla... Even if you assume that whatever he encountered was made on Earth, its hard not to have questions or be interested in the account.
- INTPenis 6y ago
  That's an excellent example. Thanks for finding it. I'd rather believe this was a combination of natural phenomenon and instrumentation failure than an alien visiting us from far far away. After reading the text that doubt is definitely still strong. It starts with conflicting reports from people on the ground. They are never able to identify what it was. And also the text reads as if it was written by a "believer" if you know what I mean. Take this for example; WHEN THE 'F?4' TURNED FROM THE OBJECT AND APPARENTLY WAS NO LONGER A THREAT TO IT THE AIRCRAFT REGAINED ALL INSTRUMENTATION That to me reads like someone who has watched too many scifi movies. And the report goes on to say that a 2nd object came out of the original object and was estimated to be "half to one third the apparent size of the moon". wtf? This whole report makes me question the sanity of everyone involved. And since it's now declassified why won't any of the at least 5 airmen involved step forwards? And besides all that, what motive would these aliens have to come here and fly around with their light shows once a decade?
  - ikrenji 6y ago
    the report is from over 40 years ago and all the involved are iranian personnel, not american ~ i wouldn't expect any of them to come forward if they are still alive... there is no natural phenomenon that fits the description. one passage says that the UFO landed and illuminated land around it in a 2-3km radius. there was a radar return, multiple aircraft involved etc. im not saying its 100% aliens, but im pretty sure its also not swamp gas / weather balloon.
    - 6y ago
specialist 6y ago
> ...to shut those lunatics up. Does that work? One of my brothers thinks the world is 6,000 years old and intelligent design and so forth. I still have no idea how to respond, because he feels I have to learn this truth too, if at all.
jolincost 6y ago
I liked your take on the redactions (and your crazy ass username, hehe). But, we're not lunatics, tho maybe your are for living in a fantasy of denial rather than facing the reality of the huge amounts of data on this. It seems crazier these days to deny the realities suggested by the Himalayas of reports and testimony. And this new index, well, it doesn't seem to be shutting anyone up now, tho, does it, hmm?

Abishek_Muthian 6y ago

I agree, Countries were even reluctant disclose whether MH370 was registered on their military radar in order to not reveal their capabilities.

jjtheblunt 6y ago

Agreed; that said, there's an Ancient Aliens tv series that acts serious but, I think, is mostly recognized for being hilarious...so frivolous I've actually watched it because it's just so laughable.

smolder 6y ago
There are people out there vulnerable to the BS due to ignorance that could be shown how to apply skepticism, or taught more about science/history, but the bullshit is just as prominent and available, or more so. Your peers may be the right combination of smart and knowledgeable to be immune, but it's best not to assume that it's harmless in general to broadcast ancient aliens style junk.
FillardMillmore 6y ago
I was on my honeymoon with my fiancee and at the end of the night, we liked to relax by opening a bottle of champagne and watching Ancient Aliens. Don't get me wrong, both of us believe in the possibility of life in outer space but that show was funnier than most modern sitcoms. Heck, even Monster Quest was more believable.

ghostbrainalpha 6y ago

I don't know how you can't at least find this document interesting. It's a first hand account of what was basically a dogfight between a US pilot and a UFO over Iran. https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/ufo/routing_slip_ufo_iran.pdf https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/decla... Even if you assume that whatever he encountered was made on Earth, its hard not to have questions or be interested in the account.

INTPenis 6y ago
That's an excellent example. Thanks for finding it. I'd rather believe this was a combination of natural phenomenon and instrumentation failure than an alien visiting us from far far away. After reading the text that doubt is definitely still strong. It starts with conflicting reports from people on the ground. They are never able to identify what it was. And also the text reads as if it was written by a "believer" if you know what I mean. Take this for example; WHEN THE 'F?4' TURNED FROM THE OBJECT AND APPARENTLY WAS NO LONGER A THREAT TO IT THE AIRCRAFT REGAINED ALL INSTRUMENTATION That to me reads like someone who has watched too many scifi movies. And the report goes on to say that a 2nd object came out of the original object and was estimated to be "half to one third the apparent size of the moon". wtf? This whole report makes me question the sanity of everyone involved. And since it's now declassified why won't any of the at least 5 airmen involved step forwards? And besides all that, what motive would these aliens have to come here and fly around with their light shows once a decade?
- ikrenji 6y ago
  the report is from over 40 years ago and all the involved are iranian personnel, not american ~ i wouldn't expect any of them to come forward if they are still alive... there is no natural phenomenon that fits the description. one passage says that the UFO landed and illuminated land around it in a 2-3km radius. there was a radar return, multiple aircraft involved etc. im not saying its 100% aliens, but im pretty sure its also not swamp gas / weather balloon.
  - 6y ago

specialist 6y ago

> ...to shut those lunatics up. Does that work? One of my brothers thinks the world is 6,000 years old and intelligent design and so forth. I still have no idea how to respond, because he feels I have to learn this truth too, if at all.

jolincost 6y ago

I liked your take on the redactions (and your crazy ass username, hehe). But, we're not lunatics, tho maybe your are for living in a fantasy of denial rather than facing the reality of the huge amounts of data on this. It seems crazier these days to deny the realities suggested by the Himalayas of reports and testimony. And this new index, well, it doesn't seem to be shutting anyone up now, tho, does it, hmm?