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> Everything you just said could be equally said about worker's unions, so why do we have worker's unions either instead of just using the government? Why not
by p4bl0 6y ago
> Everything you just said could be equally said about worker's unions, so why do we have worker's unions either instead of just using the government?
Why not ask the reverse question? “Why do we have a government instead of just having a workers union?”.
This is actually the political project of anarcho-syndicalists [1]: workers could self-organize the production and the collective life through democratic federalist instances.
The idea has been theorized since at least 1906 in the Charter of Amiens [2], an historical text of syndicalism [3]: https://www.marxists.org/history/france/cgt/charter-amiens.htm https://www.marxists.org/history/france/cgt/charter-amiens.h... where we can read “the union, today a resistance group will be, in the future, a group for production and redistribution, the basis of social reorganization.”.
At least in France, the biggest workers union (CGT) is still organized in a way that would allow this, by having both geographical and per-industry-branch instances (sorry I lack the proper words to describe this in English).
It is also what the Spanish CNT did during and after the Spnish Revolution of 1936 [4,5].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_of_Amiens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_of_Amiens
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicalism
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution_of_1936 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution_of_1936
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia
- lhorie 6y ago> Why do we have a government instead of just having a workers union? By "instead", do you mean having no government whatsoever? Who'd be responsible for traditional government responsibilities in that case? (such as police, firefighters, water/sewage, garbage collection, etc.) I don't think unions can take on any of those tasks in any meaningful sense (e.g. do you get 5 firefighter corps from different unions to come to the same fire in an apartment complex?)