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>>SiFive is strategically leveraging or responding to the geopolitics surrounding Chinese technology. interesting subtext. We should all be debating HW WRT

>>*SiFive is strategically leveraging or responding to the geopolitics surrounding Chinese technology.* interesting subtext. We should all be debating HW WRT the fact that you can't name a single device (aside from weapons) that does not contain a single-non-chinese-manufactured component... every phone or machine is almost 100% chinese built. "designed by apple in cupertino california" (but made with slave labor from congo, china and other countries) And we already know about all the backdoors both China and the US do... FFS we have known about Eschelon since the 70s - the carnivor, room 641A, etc... etc....

sradman 6y ago
Indeed, the geopolitics works both ways. I think the Chinese are looking at RISC-V as a safe-guard against American embargoes of the kind that killed/maimed HiSilicon, the non-Chinese nation-states are looking for full transparency of silicon design, and the manufacturers want full access to a truly global market that includes China. I'm not sure that SiFive RISC-V designs can be competitive with ARM/x64 in the short-term but the geopolitics creates a potential niche. I think you are conflating assembly and manufacturing. TSMC is Taiwanese and Samsung is South Korean. Personally I'd prefer that all nation-states and their security organizations followed the Golden Rule and promoted free trade rather than protectionism. > made with slave labor from congo, china and other countries I don't equate low-wage manufacturing/assembly with exploitation and certainly not slavery but I understand that this is a common metaphor. Contemporary slavery [1] is a real thing and, until I see contrary evidence, I'm assuming it makes zero contribution to high-tech assembly or manufacturing. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Contemporary_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Contemporary_slavery
- samstave 6y ago
  You have my upvote, but not my agreement; We have min wage in the US, and even that is not equal across all states - we do not have UBI or universal health care, we have shitty industries, such as insurance (forced hedge funds) and in general, we have brainwashing people to accept it as normal. fuck that. YC even wants you to think that all VC is all-truistic NOPE.
- monocasa 6y ago
  The fact that the congo is listed means that they're including the literal chattel slavery that's common in the mineral extraction process there.

>>*SiFive is strategically leveraging or responding to the geopolitics surrounding Chinese technology.* interesting subtext. We should all be debating HW WRT

sradman 6y ago

Indeed, the geopolitics works both ways. I think the Chinese are looking at RISC-V as a safe-guard against American embargoes of the kind that killed/maimed HiSilicon, the non-Chinese nation-states are looking for full transparency of silicon design, and the manufacturers want full access to a truly global market that includes China. I'm not sure that SiFive RISC-V designs can be competitive with ARM/x64 in the short-term but the geopolitics creates a potential niche. I think you are conflating assembly and manufacturing. TSMC is Taiwanese and Samsung is South Korean. Personally I'd prefer that all nation-states and their security organizations followed the Golden Rule and promoted free trade rather than protectionism. > made with slave labor from congo, china and other countries I don't equate low-wage manufacturing/assembly with exploitation and certainly not slavery but I understand that this is a common metaphor. Contemporary slavery [1] is a real thing and, until I see contrary evidence, I'm assuming it makes zero contribution to high-tech assembly or manufacturing. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Contemporary_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Contemporary_slavery

samstave 6y ago
You have my upvote, but not my agreement; We have min wage in the US, and even that is not equal across all states - we do not have UBI or universal health care, we have shitty industries, such as insurance (forced hedge funds) and in general, we have brainwashing people to accept it as normal. fuck that. YC even wants you to think that all VC is all-truistic NOPE.
monocasa 6y ago
The fact that the congo is listed means that they're including the literal chattel slavery that's common in the mineral extraction process there.