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If you remove “falsely” your message is stronger. That needless judgement thrown in there is like a slap in the face to anyone who wants to talk about these iss

If you remove “falsely” your message is stronger. That needless judgement thrown in there is like a slap in the face to anyone who wants to talk about these issues rationally, no matter what they believe.

hackyhacky 6y ago
The issues have been talked about rationally ad nauseum. There is no more "room for rational debate" than there is about climate change or the theory of evolution. The only people who object to the judgment that the election was free and fair are people who aim to disrupt democracy, and they deserve a slap in the face. Edit: spelling
- guscost 6y ago
  It will escalate to a lot more than slapping, if enough people keep this attitude.
  - MrMan 6y ago
    what you are threatening isn't caused by people arguing against the "stolen election" narrative.
    - guscost 6y ago
      Not a threat, just pointing out what is obvious to anyone who has the faintest sense about how many people are upset, and how long they have been upset. The causes go back a long way before any of this, the “stolen election” thing is just the conflict finally bubbling to the surface.
      - hackyhacky 6y ago
        Being upset does not make them right, does not justify their behavior, and does not mean they have a right to be heard. In fact, most of the "outrage" experienced on the right is intentionally drummed up, based on almost nothing, for purely selfish reasons. Consider the constantly inflamed talking heads on right-wing media outlets, who abide by the simple rule to always, always be angry.
Swenrekcah 6y ago
But it is false and that’s a fact. And that falsehood is being perpetuated by the president and some republicans. That is very serious, it is one of the main causes of the capitol events and the reason it’s so insidious is the fact that it is false. There is really no way to emphasise enough that the election was proper and claims otherwise are false, as has been repeatedly shown in courts, even with republican appointed judges.
- hackyhacky 6y ago
  You're right, which is why it's so hard to argue this point rationally. All facts and rational judgment point to a free and fair election, which means that people open to rational debate already know that it was free and fair. The people who still doubt the legitimacy of the election are not arguing rationally, but rather based on feelings and belief, and above all a desire for a different outcome. I certainly understand being disappointed with an election result, but it's disingenuous to sublimate that disappointment into a baseless argument that the election was unfair. The capitol riot was not the logical consequence of a group of rational people protesting an illegitimate election foisted by a tyrannical regime. It was, instead, an outpouring of irrational emotion, draped in the language of revolution against tyranny.

hackyhacky 6y ago

The issues have been talked about rationally ad nauseum. There is no more "room for rational debate" than there is about climate change or the theory of evolution. The only people who object to the judgment that the election was free and fair are people who aim to disrupt democracy, and they deserve a slap in the face. Edit: spelling

guscost 6y ago
It will escalate to a lot more than slapping, if enough people keep this attitude.
- MrMan 6y ago
  what you are threatening isn't caused by people arguing against the "stolen election" narrative.
  - guscost 6y ago
    Not a threat, just pointing out what is obvious to anyone who has the faintest sense about how many people are upset, and how long they have been upset. The causes go back a long way before any of this, the “stolen election” thing is just the conflict finally bubbling to the surface.
    - hackyhacky 6y ago
      Being upset does not make them right, does not justify their behavior, and does not mean they have a right to be heard. In fact, most of the "outrage" experienced on the right is intentionally drummed up, based on almost nothing, for purely selfish reasons. Consider the constantly inflamed talking heads on right-wing media outlets, who abide by the simple rule to always, always be angry.

Swenrekcah 6y ago

But it is false and that’s a fact. And that falsehood is being perpetuated by the president and some republicans. That is very serious, it is one of the main causes of the capitol events and the reason it’s so insidious is the fact that it is false. There is really no way to emphasise enough that the election was proper and claims otherwise are false, as has been repeatedly shown in courts, even with republican appointed judges.

hackyhacky 6y ago
You're right, which is why it's so hard to argue this point rationally. All facts and rational judgment point to a free and fair election, which means that people open to rational debate already know that it was free and fair. The people who still doubt the legitimacy of the election are not arguing rationally, but rather based on feelings and belief, and above all a desire for a different outcome. I certainly understand being disappointed with an election result, but it's disingenuous to sublimate that disappointment into a baseless argument that the election was unfair. The capitol riot was not the logical consequence of a group of rational people protesting an illegitimate election foisted by a tyrannical regime. It was, instead, an outpouring of irrational emotion, draped in the language of revolution against tyranny.