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Was there a poll taken of the feelings inside prior and during these events which was then proclaimed to the protesting parties and the public at large? Is the
by cptnapalm 6y ago
Was there a poll taken of the feelings inside prior and during these events which was then proclaimed to the protesting parties and the public at large? Is there any indication that the vast majority had any idea of the intentions and the contents of the pockets of those who sought to do harm? Does the moral quality of an action change depending upon the style of pants? The ethics of actions of others does not at all depend upon your feelings.
- sibeliuss 6y ago> > Does the moral quality of an action change depending upon the style of pants No, maybe not, but perhaps there's something to be said when you look at the shirts people were wearing ("Camp Auschwitz") or the flags people were holding (Confederate, many), or the words people were speaking ("Hang Mike Pence!")? > Is there any indication that the vast majority had any idea of the intentions and the contents of the pockets of those who sought to do harm There's an enormous amount of testimony everywhere, in every major publication, on every news channel, about the feelings of those on the inside experiencing the mob enter from the outside. Your attempts to defend this are disingenuous.
- cptnapalm 6y agoAgain, you mistake your feelings for rationality. Policy enforcement based on feelings is inherently arbitrary and contrary to the rule of law.
- sibeliuss 6y ago> Policy enforcement based on feelings is inherently arbitrary and contrary to the rule of law This is entirely not true in the real world. When a prosecutor brings a charge against someone, all sorts of factors are taken into account, based on prior law. The charge of "menacing" is a great example. How about "making threatening statements"? Or any number of other obvious examples that rely on subjective interpretation within a context.
- anigbrowl 6y agoCome on now, if the other events you mention had caused major fear you should be able to find some news stories or personal testimonies documenting that. Are we to believe that the incidents you mention were actually deeply traumatic but nobody bothered to say so?
- cptnapalm 6y agoAre we to believe that a poll was taken of how people felt after an event which then traveled backwards in time to before the event and was then communicated to the group which will cause the event in the future? This is actually what is required to argue with what I wrote. The topic is "what were these people thinking in taking these actions?" My reply was "there were similar actions in the past which resulted in trivial punishments." Would amending my reply to "there were similar actions in the past which resulted in trivial punishments and no one took seriously anyway" somehow have made the group that entered the Capitol less likely to have done so? If so, please explain.
- anigbrowl 6y agoI am not interested in your red herring. You are claiming an equivalence between recent and previous incidents which is not apparent to anyone else,a nd seem unable to support your claim.
- cptnapalm 6y agoThe topic at hand is a red herring? Unable to support a claim which was not made? I'm assuming you're referring to the final end results rather than "what could they be thinking?" which was, as stated, the actual topic.