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I am not from US, Trump is not my leader and I have no dog in this fight. Trump has not attacked my democratic institutions and has not caused any deaths in my

I am not from US, Trump is not my leader and I have no dog in this fight. Trump has not attacked my democratic institutions and has not caused any deaths in my country. So this is totally not the discussion I need to face. And neither of the two teams support the extremely wealthy in my country - putin does it. But if we talk about stuff requiring fixing - your attitude towards strangers on the internet could probably use some. The overzealousness spills in the real world. Keep it in check.

marksbrown 6y ago
Attack ideas not people. I'm sorry you're offended, which is an irony given that you're arguing for free speech. From a neutral perspective, members of a government should support the institution of that government. Failure to do so undermines them. Deliberately attacking the institutions of government is quite literally sedition. If you wish to discuss how the US deals with violent protesters then I can't help you. Neither of us are there! The only reason this is relevant at all to anybody outside the US is the out-sized influence their government has on the world and the out-sized influence their corporations have on citizen's lives outside their own borders.
- ReptileMan 6y ago
  I am not offended, merely amused. And yes - I was attacking the idea that we should write our angry/scolding/righteous response before we even get the basic situation correctly. If you are right now, you will be right in 15 seconds or one question down the line. But you may not be. Trump may be the craziest motherfucker there is (although from a far he is just a hapless president that couldn't or wouldn't do anything people were assuming he was willing to do), but the cyberpunkeque reality we are sliding into is crazier. And we all push. Because we all get our little fix of being on the right side of history (or least of the more vocal mob). We the culture warriors are zealots. And it will get a lot worse, before it gets better.
  - MrMan 6y ago
    This is not an amusing situation for me please don't come here to laugh about it and stir up trouble
binaryblitz 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Just gonna leave that there for you to read.

marksbrown 6y ago

Attack ideas not people. I'm sorry you're offended, which is an irony given that you're arguing for free speech. From a neutral perspective, members of a government should support the institution of that government. Failure to do so undermines them. Deliberately attacking the institutions of government is quite literally sedition. If you wish to discuss how the US deals with violent protesters then I can't help you. Neither of us are there! The only reason this is relevant at all to anybody outside the US is the out-sized influence their government has on the world and the out-sized influence their corporations have on citizen's lives outside their own borders.

ReptileMan 6y ago
I am not offended, merely amused. And yes - I was attacking the idea that we should write our angry/scolding/righteous response before we even get the basic situation correctly. If you are right now, you will be right in 15 seconds or one question down the line. But you may not be. Trump may be the craziest motherfucker there is (although from a far he is just a hapless president that couldn't or wouldn't do anything people were assuming he was willing to do), but the cyberpunkeque reality we are sliding into is crazier. And we all push. Because we all get our little fix of being on the right side of history (or least of the more vocal mob). We the culture warriors are zealots. And it will get a lot worse, before it gets better.
- MrMan 6y ago
  This is not an amusing situation for me please don't come here to laugh about it and stir up trouble

binaryblitz 6y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Just gonna leave that there for you to read.