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The 503s are a part of the game, similar to when you try to go to your favorite spots but they're closed because of covid.

tgtweak 6y ago
Putting 503 as the intro screen really ups the difficulty.
app4soft 6y ago
> The 503s are a part of the game Much worse, this site seems like from Russia & probably is unsafe to visit, as there is Yandex[0] counter[1] bundled: > ... Yandex and the FSB had reached an agreement where the company would provide the required data without handing over the encryption keys. According this, Yandex is under control of Russia's FSB (ex-USSR's KGB).[2] P.S. Just flagged this HN topic due to security reasons. Such links should not be on Hacker News front page... [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex#Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex#Security [1] https://i.imgur.com/arvXTCG.png https://i.imgur.com/arvXTCG.png [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Security_Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Security_Service
- germanier 6y ago
  By that argument most links should be removed from the frontage since we learned of PRISM.
  - app4soft 6y ago
    > since we learned of PRISM Lets not speculate there. I provided proof screenshot and you may check it itself (BUT keep uMatrix & uBlock Origin turned ON!) that there is Yandex counter bundled on "2020 Game" site. Any proofs that "2020 Game" site has something from PRISM?
    - germanier 6y ago
      No. But every second site linked here has Google Analytics embedded which is a product for the same purpose and for which equivalent evidence exists as you have presented. I'm not saying Google Analytics does anything nefarious but neither have you shown any evidence that Yandex Counter does.
      - app4soft 6y ago
        > No. So, lets not speculate.
        germanier 6y ago
        Please apply your own advice to your own original comment. Saying that company A cooperated with bad entity B in the past does not in any form show that website C using product D of company A does any dangerous thing to your device.
- Sacho 6y ago
  I think you forgot to finish your thought: - The site is hosted on Yandex - Yandex is owned by the FSB - Therefore, visiting the site is unsafe because..? The FSB will embed an exploit in it in attempts to hack you? Because you will divulge private information(beyond playing the game) to the FSB? It's unclear what the threat you are trying to combat is. This is besides the point(I am ready to believe for the sake of argument that Yandex is indeed owned by the FSB), but the wikipedia page you linked doesn't seem to support your argument. It seems like Yandex is trying to thread the needle between legal law enforcement requests and the safety and privacy of their users. Here's the full quote you ellipsed: > In June 2019, RBC News reported that Yandex had refused a request by the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) under the Yarovaya law to surrender encryption keys that could decrypt the private data of its e-mail service and cloud storage users. The company argued that it was possible to comply with the relevant law without compromising its users' privacy.[82] Maxim Akimov, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia, said that the government will take action to relieve FSB pressure on the company.[83] Alexander Zharov, head of the Federal Service for Supervision of Communications, Information Technology and Mass Media, subsequently said that Yandex and the FSB had reached an agreement where the company would provide the required data without handing over the encryption keys.[84]
  - app4soft 6y ago
    > I think you forgot to finish your thought Oh, YEAH! On December 31, 2020 the Russian government approved a list of Russian programs that must be preinstalled on all mobile devices and computers imported into Russia, including next software: - Yandex (as search engine), Yandex.Browser (as default browser), Yandex.Maps, Yandex.Disk; - Mail.Ru, Mail.Ru News; - ICQ (owned by Mail.Ru); - VK (VKontakte), OK (OdnoKlasniki); - Gosuslugi (for communicating with official governmental Portal of state services of Russian Federation); - MyOffice Documents; - Kaspersky Antivirus. This regulation comes into force on April 1, 2021.[0] Enjoy! NOTE: For security reasons, keep uMatrix & uBlock Origin turned ON while visiting reference link! [0] http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001202101060012?index=2&rangeSize=1 http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/00012021010600... [PDF] http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/File/GetFile/0001202101060012?type=pdf http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/File/GetFile/000120210106001...

tgtweak 6y ago

Putting 503 as the intro screen really ups the difficulty.

app4soft 6y ago

> The 503s are a part of the game Much worse, this site seems like from Russia & probably is unsafe to visit, as there is Yandex[0] counter[1] bundled: > ... Yandex and the FSB had reached an agreement where the company would provide the required data without handing over the encryption keys. According this, Yandex is under control of Russia's FSB (ex-USSR's KGB).[2] P.S. Just flagged this HN topic due to security reasons. Such links should not be on Hacker News front page... [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex#Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex#Security [1] https://i.imgur.com/arvXTCG.png https://i.imgur.com/arvXTCG.png [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Security_Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Security_Service

germanier 6y ago
By that argument most links should be removed from the frontage since we learned of PRISM.
- app4soft 6y ago
  > since we learned of PRISM Lets not speculate there. I provided proof screenshot and you may check it itself (BUT keep uMatrix & uBlock Origin turned ON!) that there is Yandex counter bundled on "2020 Game" site. Any proofs that "2020 Game" site has something from PRISM?
  - germanier 6y ago
    No. But every second site linked here has Google Analytics embedded which is a product for the same purpose and for which equivalent evidence exists as you have presented. I'm not saying Google Analytics does anything nefarious but neither have you shown any evidence that Yandex Counter does.
    - app4soft 6y ago
      > No. So, lets not speculate.
      - germanier 6y ago
        Please apply your own advice to your own original comment. Saying that company A cooperated with bad entity B in the past does not in any form show that website C using product D of company A does any dangerous thing to your device.
Sacho 6y ago
I think you forgot to finish your thought: - The site is hosted on Yandex - Yandex is owned by the FSB - Therefore, visiting the site is unsafe because..? The FSB will embed an exploit in it in attempts to hack you? Because you will divulge private information(beyond playing the game) to the FSB? It's unclear what the threat you are trying to combat is. This is besides the point(I am ready to believe for the sake of argument that Yandex is indeed owned by the FSB), but the wikipedia page you linked doesn't seem to support your argument. It seems like Yandex is trying to thread the needle between legal law enforcement requests and the safety and privacy of their users. Here's the full quote you ellipsed: > In June 2019, RBC News reported that Yandex had refused a request by the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) under the Yarovaya law to surrender encryption keys that could decrypt the private data of its e-mail service and cloud storage users. The company argued that it was possible to comply with the relevant law without compromising its users' privacy.[82] Maxim Akimov, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia, said that the government will take action to relieve FSB pressure on the company.[83] Alexander Zharov, head of the Federal Service for Supervision of Communications, Information Technology and Mass Media, subsequently said that Yandex and the FSB had reached an agreement where the company would provide the required data without handing over the encryption keys.[84]
- app4soft 6y ago
  > I think you forgot to finish your thought Oh, YEAH! On December 31, 2020 the Russian government approved a list of Russian programs that must be preinstalled on all mobile devices and computers imported into Russia, including next software: - Yandex (as search engine), Yandex.Browser (as default browser), Yandex.Maps, Yandex.Disk; - Mail.Ru, Mail.Ru News; - ICQ (owned by Mail.Ru); - VK (VKontakte), OK (OdnoKlasniki); - Gosuslugi (for communicating with official governmental Portal of state services of Russian Federation); - MyOffice Documents; - Kaspersky Antivirus. This regulation comes into force on April 1, 2021.[0] Enjoy! NOTE: For security reasons, keep uMatrix & uBlock Origin turned ON while visiting reference link! [0] http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001202101060012?index=2&rangeSize=1 http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/00012021010600... [PDF] http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/File/GetFile/0001202101060012?type=pdf http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/File/GetFile/000120210106001...