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I'm curious to know what apart from pornography (volumes of which have been part of comprehensive book collections for eons as in https://edition.cnn.com/style/

I'm curious to know what apart from pornography (volumes of which have been part of comprehensive book collections for eons as in https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/oxford-university-obscene-books-scli-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/oxford-university-obsc...) is included in the term 'inappropriate'?

theshrike79 6y ago
If the person in question only owns a dozen books, all are pro-Nazi stuff and they're prominently displayed for example? We're not talking about people who have a thousand books from all genres and walks of life having Mein Kampf in there.
- Veen 6y ago
  Last year's media scrutiny of politicians' bookshelves undermines your point a little. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/michael-gove-and-sarah-vine-criticised-on-twitter-for-having-76414 https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/michael-gove-an...
  - inglor_cz 6y ago
    Interesting that they consider Ayn Rand alarming enough to name her right next to David Irving, a notorious Holocaust denier, or, more precisely, diminisher. Edit: I, too, have one book by David Irving in my bookcase - among 900 others. I read it, I found his way of twisting of the sources disturbing, but I am not going to burn it in the name of Love and Peace. But unfortunately I can see this being used against me in a court of Twitter.
    - theshrike79 6y ago
      The Holy and Unerring Court of Twitter is the reason I've got a cron job deleting my old tweets automatically. I've seen people in more prominent positions than me being badly burned by a 10 year old tweet. I see no point in saving stuff I've said 6 months or a year ago. If it's something worthwhile, I'll make a blog post out of it and store the markdown file in git.
      - alexilliamson 6y ago
        Then why tweet at all in the first place?
concordDance 6y ago
Well if your family are all white Republicans, having White Fragility on your bookshelf is a sure-fire way to start an argument (due to the title!).
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  Or not. If your family is reasonable people they'll probably just keep their mouths shut an ignore it even if they don't agree with it. People are pretty good at ignoring quackery in their own family. I think most people have a few relatives who are very much outside whatever the family norms are that are still treated with respect.
  - xpe 6y ago
    Who benefits and who is hurt when reasonable people don't find ways to speak their minds and advocate for their values? This question is particularly apropos in modern times -- take the last week for example. To ask the question in a different way: There may be a tradeoff between maintaining the status quo versus speaking about our values. To me, it is really important to strive to speak and act according to our values _and_ to reflect on who (and what ideas) benefit from the status quo. It is entirely reasonable to be strategic about what you say, but I don't pretend to think the status quo is correct just because it exists.
watwut 6y ago
For example, if you like to watch romance and don't want to be judged for it.

theshrike79 6y ago

If the person in question only owns a dozen books, all are pro-Nazi stuff and they're prominently displayed for example? We're not talking about people who have a thousand books from all genres and walks of life having Mein Kampf in there.

Veen 6y ago
Last year's media scrutiny of politicians' bookshelves undermines your point a little. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/michael-gove-and-sarah-vine-criticised-on-twitter-for-having-76414 https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/michael-gove-an...
- inglor_cz 6y ago
  Interesting that they consider Ayn Rand alarming enough to name her right next to David Irving, a notorious Holocaust denier, or, more precisely, diminisher. Edit: I, too, have one book by David Irving in my bookcase - among 900 others. I read it, I found his way of twisting of the sources disturbing, but I am not going to burn it in the name of Love and Peace. But unfortunately I can see this being used against me in a court of Twitter.
  - theshrike79 6y ago
    The Holy and Unerring Court of Twitter is the reason I've got a cron job deleting my old tweets automatically. I've seen people in more prominent positions than me being badly burned by a 10 year old tweet. I see no point in saving stuff I've said 6 months or a year ago. If it's something worthwhile, I'll make a blog post out of it and store the markdown file in git.
    - alexilliamson 6y ago
      Then why tweet at all in the first place?

concordDance 6y ago

Well if your family are all white Republicans, having White Fragility on your bookshelf is a sure-fire way to start an argument (due to the title!).

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
Or not. If your family is reasonable people they'll probably just keep their mouths shut an ignore it even if they don't agree with it. People are pretty good at ignoring quackery in their own family. I think most people have a few relatives who are very much outside whatever the family norms are that are still treated with respect.
- xpe 6y ago
  Who benefits and who is hurt when reasonable people don't find ways to speak their minds and advocate for their values? This question is particularly apropos in modern times -- take the last week for example. To ask the question in a different way: There may be a tradeoff between maintaining the status quo versus speaking about our values. To me, it is really important to strive to speak and act according to our values _and_ to reflect on who (and what ideas) benefit from the status quo. It is entirely reasonable to be strategic about what you say, but I don't pretend to think the status quo is correct just because it exists.

watwut 6y ago

For example, if you like to watch romance and don't want to be judged for it.