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Too bad this will never ship in a US-bound product. Samsung is so terrified of Qualcomm's patent library that their US destined products all use Qualcomm SoCs i
by xelrre 6y ago
Too bad this will never ship in a US-bound product. Samsung is so terrified of Qualcomm's patent library that their US destined products all use Qualcomm SoCs instead of Exynos.
- leeoniya 6y agoand they're super locked down, too. found out the hard way, expecting to flash lineageos onto my wife's sprint/us snapdragon-based S8 instead of the bootloader-unlocked european exynos model :( i told her to buy the sprint one cause it had better coverage in the us band spectrum.
- FunnyLookinHat 6y agoThat's not totally true... They've sold Chromebooks in US markets with Exynos (though I'm not sure how recently they refreshed that lineup). I'm not sure about the mobile market though.
- xelrre 6y agoI think these all used the older ARMv7 Exynos chips, before modems became standard in the SoC. Everything they've shipped with an ARMv8 has an onboard modem.
- 14u2c 6y agoI thought it was more to do with Qualcomm's SOCs having integrated radios for the atypical US bands, something they'd have to add on otherwise?
- xelrre 6y agoHistorically, that was trueish thanks to CDMA in the usa, but it's significantly less true now that the CDMA networks are dying. For instance, the only band an S20 is missing that's commonly found in the US is 66. https://www.deviceranks.com/en/phone/bands/16582/samsung-galaxy-s20-exynos https://www.deviceranks.com/en/phone/bands/16582/samsung-gal... These days it's purely a patent licensing agreement. Samsung doesn't sell Exynos modems (and thus Exynos SoCs) in the US or China (historically markets with lots of CDMA), and Qualcomm doesn't hassle them about the rest of the world.
- dagmx 6y agoAfaik that's more to do with cellular patents than processor patents
- xelrre 6y agoTotally. At the same time, Samsung has made it clear they aren't really interested in producing SoCs without built in modems any more.
- ksec 6y ago>Samsung is so terrified of Qualcomm's patent library Samsung has reached a deal with Qualcomm and settled all on-going patent issues in 2018. So I would not be surprised if Exynos comes to US in 2021 or 2022. But right now nothing has been shown by Samsung to be competitive with Qualcomm's mmWave offering. And interestingly enough US is the only market which has implemented mmWave with one carrier and other two are "looking at it" closely. As far as I know NO other market currently has plans for mmWave. Which means if mmWave is mandatory for US market, you would likely continue to see Qualcomm in Samsung Smartphone.