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Beaker is one of those projects that I just can't seem to find a use-case for personally, but absolutely love the idea. I really enjoy that it comes up on HN p

Beaker is one of those projects that I just can't seem to find a use-case for personally, but absolutely love the idea. I really enjoy that it comes up on HN pretty consistently so I can follow up on progress.

dang 6y ago
Oh - just in case that's a very polite hint - when I post links like that, it isn't in any way to imply that the submission shouldn't have been posted. It's just to satisfy people's curiosity. HN readers like looking at past threads. HN allows reposts after a year or so, or if a story hasn't had much attention yet. In cases where it has had significant attention in the last year (or so), we mark the repost [dupe] and downweight it. That's not the case here (though I'm sort of playing the "or so" card with respect to May 2020).
- mmcclure 6y ago
  Oh no, not at all a polite hint, I really do like when interesting things like this resurface and when there's a link to past discussions on it.
- tannhaeuser 6y ago
  My immediate impression when I saw a list of past HN stories in this case was a sense of "everything had been said and done, over and over" and I was about to add my submission for Beaker's 1.0 release of a month ago because I felt the list didn't sufficiently tell the narrative of steady progress over the years. I ended up not to when I noticed you just picked the submissions having significant engagement, or the ones coming from straight from beakerbrowser or pfraze. I guess adding links to past stories (at least when not posted by you dang) can signal different things; in this case, maybe including the title may have changed my first impression.
  - dang 6y ago
    Yes, it's a frustratingly hard problem. I want a way to supply links to past discussions that communicates clearly: "this is just a list of additional things that some of you may be interested in and if you aren't that's cool and this is a fine post and don't worry everything's great!"... except brief. I thought If curious see also would do it—but apparently it doesn't quite land that way with everybody. You're right that when I post those I filter the list for only the most engaging discussions, because HN readers don't like clicking on things and being taken to something not-so-interesting. Unfortunately that makes it a bit harder to write software to come up with just the right ones.
    - LeonB 6y ago
      “If curious see also” sounds perfect to me.
      - dang 6y ago
        I thought so too! and it seems to have cut down on the misunderstandings...but unfortunately they persist.

dang 6y ago

Oh - just in case that's a very polite hint - when I post links like that, it isn't in any way to imply that the submission shouldn't have been posted. It's just to satisfy people's curiosity. HN readers like looking at past threads. HN allows reposts after a year or so, or if a story hasn't had much attention yet. In cases where it has had significant attention in the last year (or so), we mark the repost [dupe] and downweight it. That's not the case here (though I'm sort of playing the "or so" card with respect to May 2020).

mmcclure 6y ago
Oh no, not at all a polite hint, I really do like when interesting things like this resurface and when there's a link to past discussions on it.
tannhaeuser 6y ago
My immediate impression when I saw a list of past HN stories in this case was a sense of "everything had been said and done, over and over" and I was about to add my submission for Beaker's 1.0 release of a month ago because I felt the list didn't sufficiently tell the narrative of steady progress over the years. I ended up not to when I noticed you just picked the submissions having significant engagement, or the ones coming from straight from beakerbrowser or pfraze. I guess adding links to past stories (at least when not posted by you dang) can signal different things; in this case, maybe including the title may have changed my first impression.
- dang 6y ago
  Yes, it's a frustratingly hard problem. I want a way to supply links to past discussions that communicates clearly: "this is just a list of additional things that some of you may be interested in and if you aren't that's cool and this is a fine post and don't worry everything's great!"... except brief. I thought If curious see also would do it—but apparently it doesn't quite land that way with everybody. You're right that when I post those I filter the list for only the most engaging discussions, because HN readers don't like clicking on things and being taken to something not-so-interesting. Unfortunately that makes it a bit harder to write software to come up with just the right ones.
  - LeonB 6y ago
    “If curious see also” sounds perfect to me.
    - dang 6y ago
      I thought so too! and it seems to have cut down on the misunderstandings...but unfortunately they persist.