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Is there a Fox news equivalent in the UK?

simonh 6y ago
Not on TV, but we have a newspaper called the Daily Mail. It's usually pretty good on general news and opinion, but it's pretty right wing and regularly publishes manipulated statistics and disinformation on climate change and EU issues. So it's like Fox on some specific topics. The leading left wing paper is the Guardian (Sometimes referred to as the Gauniad due to it having pretty poor proofreading back in the day). It's way too leftie for me on opinion, it's grown a bit of a woke tendency, but is good on science and international news.
- drcongo 6y ago
  It's interesting where people's boundaries sit when it comes to the far left and far right. I would class the Daily Mail (alternatively known as the Daily Heil) as extremely right wing, their editorial slant appears to be designed to drag the Overton window as far to the right as possible by outraging middle England about Muslims, refugees and house prices. I also wouldn't call the Guardian even vaguely left wing any more, given their relentless campaigning against Jeremy Corbyn and backchannels with the "Blue Labour" crowd. Sure, it's left of most of the British press, but then again Dutarte is left of most of the British press. On TV, I'd say Sky News isn't _that_ far off Fox. Extremely selective on their guests and very partisan in their correspondents.
  - simonh 6y ago
    Well I am a righty so although some of the DM stuff is poisonous, no question, my tolerance for what I would say are reasonable conservative views is higher. I think all of those are reasonable takes except for on Corbyn. The Guardian didn't dislike Corbyn due to a lack of Leftyness, but because for all the fact I disagree with them politically, I can at least recognise that they have some standards and integrity. Corbyn wasn't exactly a Left Trump, but not all that far off with the antisemitism, and sucking up to the fascist theocrats in Iran and Hezbollah, naked opportunism, etc. I wish more people on the right in the US had stood up for their principles in that way over the last 4 years.

Not on TV, but we have a newspaper called the Daily Mail. It's usually pretty good on general news and opinion, but it's pretty right wing and regularly publishes manipulated statistics and disinformation on climate change and EU issues. So it's like Fox on some specific topics. The leading left wing paper is the Guardian (Sometimes referred to as the Gauniad due to it having pretty poor proofreading back in the day). It's way too leftie for me on opinion, it's grown a bit of a woke tendency, but is good on science and international news.

drcongo 6y ago
It's interesting where people's boundaries sit when it comes to the far left and far right. I would class the Daily Mail (alternatively known as the Daily Heil) as extremely right wing, their editorial slant appears to be designed to drag the Overton window as far to the right as possible by outraging middle England about Muslims, refugees and house prices. I also wouldn't call the Guardian even vaguely left wing any more, given their relentless campaigning against Jeremy Corbyn and backchannels with the "Blue Labour" crowd. Sure, it's left of most of the British press, but then again Dutarte is left of most of the British press. On TV, I'd say Sky News isn't _that_ far off Fox. Extremely selective on their guests and very partisan in their correspondents.
- simonh 6y ago
  Well I am a righty so although some of the DM stuff is poisonous, no question, my tolerance for what I would say are reasonable conservative views is higher. I think all of those are reasonable takes except for on Corbyn. The Guardian didn't dislike Corbyn due to a lack of Leftyness, but because for all the fact I disagree with them politically, I can at least recognise that they have some standards and integrity. Corbyn wasn't exactly a Left Trump, but not all that far off with the antisemitism, and sucking up to the fascist theocrats in Iran and Hezbollah, naked opportunism, etc. I wish more people on the right in the US had stood up for their principles in that way over the last 4 years.