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Nazism?
by tathougies 6y ago
Nazism?
- recursive 6y agoElsewhere in the thread, it's noted that they maintain a mail server that's named after some nazi stronghold or something.
- necrotic_comp 6y agoIt's probably just poor humor, but it doesn't reflect well on them.
- fossuser 6y agoI'm less likely to assume humor given what's going on in politics. You can think marxism sucks (I do) without torchlight marches and nazi naming schemes. The latter is something else.
- recursive 6y agoFWIW this was all several years ago. I don't know if the mail server still exists with the same name. And I still don't know what's wrong with a torchlight hike/march. (They call it a hike, you call it a march) It sounds like something I'd do.
- varjag 6y agoThey did Tiki torch march a couple weeks after Charlottesville, which am sure is just another unfortunate coincidence. Can happen to anyone!
- flukus 6y agoThey did it in Germany, where Charlottesville was likely a 30 second news clip that everyone forgot about. Stop with the cultural imperialism, race relations in the US are rather unique.
- varjag 6y agoI am in Europe, it was top news for many days.
- hobofan 6y agoEven unrelated to Charlottesville torch walks generally have right wing connotations, as it was a traditional show of force by the Nazis. In Germany these days you mostly see them done as right wing rallies. As one data point, here[0] you can see NPD members calling for protest holding torches (during broad daylight). [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4QUC0aXN8M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4QUC0aXN8M
- fossuser 6y agoMaybe it's just wildly bad self-awareness mixed with being obnoxious, but maybe it's not: https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/white-nationalists-tiki-torch-march-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/white-nationalists-tiki-to... The torches are used as a symbol - might be nothing, but paired with speaking out against cultural marxism it's more likely to be intentional than it otherwise would be. I don't know, but I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt since the mail server is fairly explicit if true. When people tell you who they are, believe them.
- MajesticHobo2 6y agoIn addition to that, "Cultural Marxism" doesn't just refer to Marxism. It's an antisemitic canard used pretty much exclusively by the far right.
- recursive 6y agoI looked it up on wikipedia. But it was like learning monads from wikipedia. It's a dense nest of jargon that just leaves me wondering which way is up if I spend more than a few minutes following links.
- anoncake 6y agoA German calling their computer "Wolfsschanze"? They are not joking.
- LukeShu 6y agoNot a mail server, an individual person's laptop. > these mails originate from a host called "wolfsschanze", which appears to be the laptop a certain Laslo Hunhold works from (their conf organizer?) -- the tweet in the thread that you're mentioning
- hobofan 6y agoThe same person has also given a talk on their conference with the title "OpenBSD supremacy", which seems like an oddly specific choice of words (though it could also be the result of English as a second language).
- Rotten194 6y agoI think they're referring to this?: https://twitter.com/kuschku/status/1156488420413362177 https://twitter.com/kuschku/status/1156488420413362177 disclaimer: found on Google, unsure of context / if these people are core developers, just sharing for those who like me were also confused
- arp242 6y agoIt's just a social event they did. Nothing to it. The conversation continued a bit with a discussion on what exactly what means with "cultural marxism", and it's not as bad as this snippet might make it appear. But can't add context lest people give the benefit of the doubt, ey?
- dijit 6y agoI actually like suckless software and I'm a little (lot) annoyed by the overwhelming "sides" of politics, especially the left because a lot of US tech comes from a left wing belief and sometimes people online beat me over the head with it and make me annoyed. But, to be clear, there are three things here: 1) They're doing a Tiki Torch walk, during a time when it was heavily politicised. 2) They're adapting Nazi slogans as hostnames 3) They're denigrating "Cultural Marxism". Any one of these alone I would probably defend, but 3 is a pattern and not a good one.
- arp242 6y ago> 1) They're doing a Tiki Torch walk, during a time when it was heavily politicised. No it wasn't; just in the US. Not everyone in the world is obsessed with the latest drama in the US. I've done many torchwalks with scouts. In fact, they're used to celebrate the end of the Nazi occupation in my home town every single year on Sept 18th. Should we stop doing this because some yahoos on the other side of the world used some torches in some far-right march? This is "Hitler has a moustache, you have a moustache, ergo you must be a Nazi"-kind of logic. > 2) They're adapting Nazi slogans as hostnames A private server belonging to a single person, not the project. I have asked him plainly and directly about that and he avoided the question. I am also not impressed by this, but that doesn't make him a Nazi, and it certainly doesn't make everyone involved in the project a Nazi. > 3) They're denigrating "Cultural Marxism". A single person is (same one as the hostname). And like I said, there is a lot more to that conversation than the screenshot makes it out to be as there was a lot of confusion about what's intended with "cultural marxism". I really recommend you read the entire conversation in full, and while I don't personally agree with their take, it's also really not that bad.
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- zarkov99 6y agoYou know, one day we might see real Nazis but we won’t have a word for them anymore.
- tathougies 6y agohttps://imgflip.com/memegenerator/Oprah-You-Get-A https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/Oprah-You-Get-A