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> no it is not. Saying “covid is a hoax” should be protected by free speech because it is an expression of (stupidly false) opinion. But I shouldn't be obligat

by ardy42 6y ago

> no it is not. Saying “covid is a hoax” should be protected by free speech because it is an expression of (stupidly false) opinion. But I shouldn't be obligated to let someone put a sign saying that on my lawn, nor should I be obligated to remain friends with someone who is pushing that lie. Most of the people who are complaining about free speech being limited are really arguing for things like the above.

foolinaround 6y ago
yes, but then you don't get covered under section 230, because you are actively making judgement calls, and therefore, should be liable for those.
- tstrimple 6y ago
  That's really not how Section 230 works. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200531/23325444617/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-section-230-communications-decency-act.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200531/23325444617/hello...
  - foolinaround 6y ago
    this link clarified some things for me,thanks
- chc 6y ago
  Whatever news source you heard talking about section 230, you should stop trusting it, because they are actively misinforming you.
ericd 6y ago
You preventing signs on your lawn are fine, you preventing specific messages on systemically important communications infrastructure you happen to own is not. It’s the same reason that AT&T was heavily regulated back when it carried 90% of telecom traffic and before it was ultimately broken up via antitrust. You running a corner store the way you want is fine, you running the only store in the country the way you want is not.
- ardy42 6y ago
  > You preventing signs on your lawn are fine, you preventing specific messages on systemically important communications infrastructure you happen to own is not. It’s the same reason that AT&T was heavily regulated back when it carried 90% of telecom traffic and before it was ultimately broken up via antitrust. You know, you don't need AWS to run a website, right? Similarly, newspapers have often been local monopolies, but as far as I know, they've always been able to decline to publish a letter to the editor. Whoever wants to stick a sign on my lawn is going to come up with some rationale to force me to do it, but that doesn't mean it holds any water.

by ardy42 6y ago

foolinaround 6y ago

yes, but then you don't get covered under section 230, because you are actively making judgement calls, and therefore, should be liable for those.

tstrimple 6y ago
That's really not how Section 230 works. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200531/23325444617/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-section-230-communications-decency-act.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200531/23325444617/hello...
- foolinaround 6y ago
  this link clarified some things for me,thanks
chc 6y ago
Whatever news source you heard talking about section 230, you should stop trusting it, because they are actively misinforming you.

ericd 6y ago

You preventing signs on your lawn are fine, you preventing specific messages on systemically important communications infrastructure you happen to own is not. It’s the same reason that AT&T was heavily regulated back when it carried 90% of telecom traffic and before it was ultimately broken up via antitrust. You running a corner store the way you want is fine, you running the only store in the country the way you want is not.

ardy42 6y ago
> You preventing signs on your lawn are fine, you preventing specific messages on systemically important communications infrastructure you happen to own is not. It’s the same reason that AT&T was heavily regulated back when it carried 90% of telecom traffic and before it was ultimately broken up via antitrust. You know, you don't need AWS to run a website, right? Similarly, newspapers have often been local monopolies, but as far as I know, they've always been able to decline to publish a letter to the editor. Whoever wants to stick a sign on my lawn is going to come up with some rationale to force me to do it, but that doesn't mean it holds any water.