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Even DNS services are kicking people off. AR15, a widely trafficked gun forum with an e-commerce store was just kicked off of GoDaddy. https://www.washingtonex

Even DNS services are kicking people off. AR15, a widely trafficked gun forum with an e-commerce store was just kicked off of GoDaddy. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/amazon-godaddy-boots-gun-site https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/amazon-godaddy-boots...

PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
I don't the know the details of that case (and I don't expect the WE reporter does either). It seems as if GoDaddy refused to continue hosting the site. That's quite different from providing just DNS for a server owned and administered by the organization.
- robocat 6y ago
  From linked article: “As a result, we[=godaddy] informed the site yesterday that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another registrar, as they have violated our terms of service" i.e. domain, not hosting.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
    Their registrar is and was epik.com, starting in 1997 according to whois records. I can't find an obvious link between godaddy and epik (though one may exist). Their current DNS service is provided by ... AWS :) I'm not convinced that the quote from godaddy is technically informative here, though using the word "registrar" would seem to be more indicative of something other than hosting.
    - chromatin 6y ago
      No, Epik is current. They moved this week after GoDaddy set them to ClientHold (which doesn’t resolve) Source: a thread on the forum
      - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
        Wierd, since whois says: Domain Name: AR15.COM Registry Domain ID: 984217_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.epik.com Registrar URL: http://www.epik.com Updated Date: 2021-01-12T19:30:31Z Creation Date: 1997-03-28T05:00:00Z Registry Expiry Date: 2023-03-29T04:00:00Z Registrar: Epik Inc. I guess "Creation Date" refers to the original registration of the domain anywhere rather than with the current registrar.
        chipsa 6y ago
        Epik didn't even exist in 1997.
        chrononaut 6y ago
        > I guess "Creation Date" refers to the original registration of the domain anywhere rather than with the current registrar. Correct. Even more interestingly if you backorder a domain name owned by another person and that domain name expires, the creation date reflected in the WHOIS record once you obtain it will be the previous owner's creation date, not the date you obtained the domain. I think this behavior varies by registrar but that is how it seems to function on GoDaddy.
    - abiogenesis 6y ago
      Transfers between registrars do not usually reset the "Creation Date". Actually the creation date field is not correct anymore for most domain names. Some registrars just show a fixed date such as 1985-01-01.
alacombe 6y ago
> AR15, a widely trafficked gun forum Given the amount of time it's been openly operating, if there was anything done related to gun trafficking, the ATF would have shut it down long ago. Just because a site has a LEGAL private sales section and you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's "trafficking".
- boston_clone 6y ago
  it may have simply been an opportunity for a better choice of words. in this case, i think they meant trafficked as in heavily visited.
  - Gollapalli 6y ago
    I meant site traffic, yes. Thank you for clarifying.
- bitexploder 6y ago
  I think this is an English thing. That “widely trafficked forum” means to me that it is popular. If I wanted to imply they were a part of trafficking I would write “ar15 a popular forum for the trafficking of firearms” or something like that. Trafficked does imply the illegal part, but the way it’s written that makes no sense.
ehsankia 6y ago
Meanwhile on top of HN today: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/pirated-academic-database-sci-hub-is-now-on-the-uncensorable-web-2021-01-11 https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/pirated-academic-database-sc...

PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago

I don't the know the details of that case (and I don't expect the WE reporter does either). It seems as if GoDaddy refused to continue hosting the site. That's quite different from providing just DNS for a server owned and administered by the organization.

robocat 6y ago
From linked article: “As a result, we[=godaddy] informed the site yesterday that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another registrar, as they have violated our terms of service" i.e. domain, not hosting.
- PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
  Their registrar is and was epik.com, starting in 1997 according to whois records. I can't find an obvious link between godaddy and epik (though one may exist). Their current DNS service is provided by ... AWS :) I'm not convinced that the quote from godaddy is technically informative here, though using the word "registrar" would seem to be more indicative of something other than hosting.
  - chromatin 6y ago
    No, Epik is current. They moved this week after GoDaddy set them to ClientHold (which doesn’t resolve) Source: a thread on the forum
    - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
      Wierd, since whois says: Domain Name: AR15.COM Registry Domain ID: 984217_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.epik.com Registrar URL: http://www.epik.com Updated Date: 2021-01-12T19:30:31Z Creation Date: 1997-03-28T05:00:00Z Registry Expiry Date: 2023-03-29T04:00:00Z Registrar: Epik Inc. I guess "Creation Date" refers to the original registration of the domain anywhere rather than with the current registrar.
      - chipsa 6y ago
        Epik didn't even exist in 1997.
      - chrononaut 6y ago
        > I guess "Creation Date" refers to the original registration of the domain anywhere rather than with the current registrar. Correct. Even more interestingly if you backorder a domain name owned by another person and that domain name expires, the creation date reflected in the WHOIS record once you obtain it will be the previous owner's creation date, not the date you obtained the domain. I think this behavior varies by registrar but that is how it seems to function on GoDaddy.
  - abiogenesis 6y ago
    Transfers between registrars do not usually reset the "Creation Date". Actually the creation date field is not correct anymore for most domain names. Some registrars just show a fixed date such as 1985-01-01.

alacombe 6y ago

> AR15, a widely trafficked gun forum Given the amount of time it's been openly operating, if there was anything done related to gun trafficking, the ATF would have shut it down long ago. Just because a site has a LEGAL private sales section and you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's "trafficking".

boston_clone 6y ago
it may have simply been an opportunity for a better choice of words. in this case, i think they meant trafficked as in heavily visited.
- Gollapalli 6y ago
  I meant site traffic, yes. Thank you for clarifying.
bitexploder 6y ago
I think this is an English thing. That “widely trafficked forum” means to me that it is popular. If I wanted to imply they were a part of trafficking I would write “ar15 a popular forum for the trafficking of firearms” or something like that. Trafficked does imply the illegal part, but the way it’s written that makes no sense.

ehsankia 6y ago

Meanwhile on top of HN today: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/pirated-academic-database-sci-hub-is-now-on-the-uncensorable-web-2021-01-11 https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/pirated-academic-database-sc...