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It's hard to grasp the fact 4,000 Americas are dying each and every day from COVID. When 3,000 died in 9/11 it was an outrage, but now it's more than that each
by grecy 6y ago
It's hard to grasp the fact 4,000 Americas are dying each and every day from COVID.
When 3,000 died in 9/11 it was an outrage, but now it's more than that each and every day and everyone has become numb to it.
- throwarayes 6y agoYeah I don’t need to google and stare at dashboards to have some situational awareness. Usually it comes up in texts or conversation “yeah we’re at 1.5 9/11s a day now”. Which sadly is likely to be true for some time and not change :(. It’s depressingly normal.
- xur17 6y agoIt's depressingly normal, and it doesn't feel like there's much you can do to help it. Wear a mask, avoid social gatherings, etc, but beyond that I'm at a loss as to what an individual can really do to help, hence the apathy.
- cwhiz 6y agoAbout 7,700 people die on any average day in America. Roughly 1,800 a day from heart disease, 1500 from cancer, and 450 from accidents. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm I imagine people would act a bit differently if we had heart disease charts and graphs plastered on the front of every major news site.
- grecy 6y agoAbsolutely, though I think the numbers prove my point. What single cause has resulted in 4,000 daily deaths, day in and day out for weeks on end? (and likely for many more months to come)
- cwhiz 6y agoI don't know of any, but I am also not sure that the distinction of "single cause" is important. The deaths above expected will tell the full story. How many days were there 4,000+ deaths above expected? Probably quite a few, but less than people think.
- adolph 6y agoIt hasn't caused 4k daily until recently and it isn't clear how long it will continue at that rate. The below chart shows its rank in daily deaths and shows that the death rate is very very serious. https://app.flourish.studio/visualisation/1712761/ https://app.flourish.studio/visualisation/1712761/ What single cause has resulted in 4k daily for weeks on end? German invasion of the USSR. There are 1417 days between 22 Jun 1941 - 09 May 1945. According to Russian government figures, USSR losses within postwar borders now stand at 26.6 million, including 8 to 9 million due to famine and disease.[0] So, 17.6m / 1417 = 12,420.6 people per day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
- postalrat 6y agoPeople dying is normal. An event like 9/11 isn't.
- pklausler 6y agoPeople dying prematurely from a preventable pandemic is not normal and should never be considered so.
- postalrat 6y agoYou've been oversold if you think the pandemic was completely preventable. Many deaths are preventable but eventually you die. 500k "preventable" deaths every single year in the USA from smoking. Many others could be "prevented" by eating healthier food or getting more exercise.
- klyrs 6y ago"Excess deaths" measures the deviation from "normal." When that gets up into thousands per day, overtaking causes like cancer and heart disease, it's not "normal."
- postalrat 6y agoAbout 655k die every year from heart disease. Covid hasn't reached half that number in the same time. Covid has been terrible but you shouldn't cherry pick stats to tell a story that isn't true.
- ndiscussion 6y agoMasks sell easier to people with limited self control than salads.
- klyrs 6y agoCherrypicking? I was referring to the daily death rate. If it had been 2k/day all year, which has been fairly common in recent weeks, then about 700k would have died. But that would be ridiculous, because the virus took a long time to reach the saturation level we're at today. The stat you picked is quite incomparable.