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This is a false equivalence. The clearest reason is that zero of these cases resulted in sedition. This argument is distracting, it is classic whataboutism. In

This is a false equivalence. The clearest reason is that zero of these cases resulted in sedition. This argument is distracting, it is classic whataboutism. In no way is it the case that moderating the app stores and shutting down access to Parler or the President's Tweets equivalent to condoning Clinton's or Jackson-Lee's or Sander's actions. I recommend that you look at this particular case and draw your conclusions about it without complaining about the failure to respond the same way to very different situations from other people years prior.

dionian 6y ago
I'd like to see the evidence of how violent actions by pro-DNC parties like BLM/antifa which occurred after these words are any less tied to them than the actions that happened after Trump's words. For empirical data's sake.
- germinalphrase 6y ago
  Other than the President giving an in person speech before this exact group of people on the same morning as the events took place in which he directed them to march toward the Capitol building?
  - hartator 6y ago
    The capitol riot happened at the same time as his speech. Not after. Devil is in the details.
    - germinalphrase 6y ago
      During and after, but mostly after. During: President begins speech at approximately noon. Some protestors already amassed at Capitol. During speech, crowd begins moving away from the speech location, gather at the Capitol building, and breach outer perimeter “bike fence”. After: The President’s speech ends at approximately 1:10pm. Crowd is still outside the Capitol doors. Congress begins certifying the vote. Protestors clash with police, both sides spraying chemical irritants. Protesters continue to gather in numbers, surrounding the Capitol building until breaching the exterior doors at approximately 2:10pm. Other than the planting of pipe bombs at the Capitol/RNC/DNC (which I haven’t seen reporting on the timing), all significant violence took place shortly after the President’s speech ended.

dionian 6y ago

I'd like to see the evidence of how violent actions by pro-DNC parties like BLM/antifa which occurred after these words are any less tied to them than the actions that happened after Trump's words. For empirical data's sake.

germinalphrase 6y ago
Other than the President giving an in person speech before this exact group of people on the same morning as the events took place in which he directed them to march toward the Capitol building?
- hartator 6y ago
  The capitol riot happened at the same time as his speech. Not after. Devil is in the details.
  - germinalphrase 6y ago
    During and after, but mostly after. During: President begins speech at approximately noon. Some protestors already amassed at Capitol. During speech, crowd begins moving away from the speech location, gather at the Capitol building, and breach outer perimeter “bike fence”. After: The President’s speech ends at approximately 1:10pm. Crowd is still outside the Capitol doors. Congress begins certifying the vote. Protestors clash with police, both sides spraying chemical irritants. Protesters continue to gather in numbers, surrounding the Capitol building until breaching the exterior doors at approximately 2:10pm. Other than the planting of pipe bombs at the Capitol/RNC/DNC (which I haven’t seen reporting on the timing), all significant violence took place shortly after the President’s speech ended.