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I want it thick enough for a decent battery and a keyboard with nice travel. Oh and make it easy to open and close it an replace/add stuff. Sure add some room f

I want it thick enough for a decent battery and a keyboard with nice travel. Oh and make it easy to open and close it an replace/add stuff. Sure add some room for a 2.5" sata drive. Like you, I don't really get the race to the thinnest. Perhaps it pushes tech in other aspects to limits that allow for better batteries in my thicker laptop... in that case, I'm ok with it ;)

Symmetry 6y ago
I saved a fair bit of money buying the base RAM and SDD configuration and then upgrading myself the last couple of times I bought a T-series Thinkpad.
orev 6y ago
2.5” SATA drives are dead for laptops. Only the really cheap/slow ones still have them, and that’s not the market for this kind of device. We’re lucky that we still have removable M.2 SSDs at all. It looks like devices will be moving to fully soldered storage in the next few years.
- CivBase 6y ago
  > We’re lucky that we still have removable M.2 SSDs at all. It looks like devices will be moving to fully soldered storage in the next few years. What makes you say that? Unlike smartphones, laptops are still widely used as productivity stations. Surely that means there will continue to be high demand for upgradable and replaceable internal storage.
  - novok 6y ago
    Look at macbooks and ultrabooks, and what % of users really replace their internal drives?
    - woleium 6y ago
      lots of IT teams have a fleet of the same machines with a spares to swap the ssd into when a machine is damaged.
      - orev 6y ago
        And this is probably the only reason we still have that as an option. The Surface Pro 7 Plus just came out with a removable drive, so hopefully that shows there really is still a need for removable drives. But for consumers I think the only option will soon be cloud.
- zepolen 6y ago
  At least LG doesn't seem to be going in that direction, the LG Gram 17: - Two m2/nvme slots - Upgradeable ram - 17" retina resolution - 2.9lb weight - 16:10 aspect ratio - User replaceable battery/speakers
thereddaikon 6y ago
I want it to be thick enough to allow for proper cooling so the laptop doesn't immediately throttle as soon as it boosts. That requirement would pretty much allow for everything else anyways.
silon42 6y ago
+1 on the full mechanical keyboard (if used laptop full time, for 5% of the time, the Thinkpad ones are acceptable). I used older Thinkpad for 2 years on laptop keyboard exclusively, but then switched to external ones as they are just better.

Symmetry 6y ago

I saved a fair bit of money buying the base RAM and SDD configuration and then upgrading myself the last couple of times I bought a T-series Thinkpad.

orev 6y ago

2.5” SATA drives are dead for laptops. Only the really cheap/slow ones still have them, and that’s not the market for this kind of device. We’re lucky that we still have removable M.2 SSDs at all. It looks like devices will be moving to fully soldered storage in the next few years.

CivBase 6y ago
> We’re lucky that we still have removable M.2 SSDs at all. It looks like devices will be moving to fully soldered storage in the next few years. What makes you say that? Unlike smartphones, laptops are still widely used as productivity stations. Surely that means there will continue to be high demand for upgradable and replaceable internal storage.
- novok 6y ago
  Look at macbooks and ultrabooks, and what % of users really replace their internal drives?
  - woleium 6y ago
    lots of IT teams have a fleet of the same machines with a spares to swap the ssd into when a machine is damaged.
    - orev 6y ago
      And this is probably the only reason we still have that as an option. The Surface Pro 7 Plus just came out with a removable drive, so hopefully that shows there really is still a need for removable drives. But for consumers I think the only option will soon be cloud.
zepolen 6y ago
At least LG doesn't seem to be going in that direction, the LG Gram 17: - Two m2/nvme slots - Upgradeable ram - 17" retina resolution - 2.9lb weight - 16:10 aspect ratio - User replaceable battery/speakers

thereddaikon 6y ago

I want it to be thick enough to allow for proper cooling so the laptop doesn't immediately throttle as soon as it boosts. That requirement would pretty much allow for everything else anyways.

silon42 6y ago

+1 on the full mechanical keyboard (if used laptop full time, for 5% of the time, the Thinkpad ones are acceptable). I used older Thinkpad for 2 years on laptop keyboard exclusively, but then switched to external ones as they are just better.