3 ms·

Which is about as much as more specialized, but brand new hardware, like the PCEngines APU2.

Jonnax 6y ago
It uses a CPU from 2014 however: https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Puma/AMD-G-Series%20GX-412TC.html https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Puma/AMD-G-Series%20GX-412TC....
- vegardx 6y ago
  Yes, but it also super compact, draws very little power and it has multiple network interfaces. It's also fanless, which makes it ideal for long running set-up-and-forget scenarios that home routers typically are.
  - alrs 6y ago
    The HP T620+ is fanless, draws very little power, and has a PCIe slot so you can run multiple network interfaces. 4 cores, 25W TDP. model name : AMD GX-420CA SOC with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
    - zokier 6y ago
      So T620+ and APU2 have otherwise same CPU (quad Jaguar cores) but T620+ runs it at 2GHz/25W and APU2 at 1GHz/6W
      - puzzlingcaptcha 6y ago
        GX-420CA also has a GPU which GX-412TC lacks. In headless operation the difference would not be that much. For reference, I have a t620 with GX-415GA (TDP 15W) which draws 12W at the wall in a CPU load scenario. https://www.amd.com/en/system/files?file=2017-06/g-series-soc-product-brief.pdf https://www.amd.com/en/system/files?file=2017-06/g-series-so...
puzzlingcaptcha 6y ago
$150 (roughly the cost of APU2+case+power brick+16GB SSD) for a t620 would be daylight robbery. I got the non-plus variant on the secondary market for $30 delivered and it works very well, uses roughly the same CPU as APU2 as well (4-core AMD Jaguar derivative, AES-NI & AVX extensions). Power usage is 6W idle (headless), 12W full-load. UEFI is basic but functional, I can boot Linux straight from the EFI boot entry. t620 Plus has a PCIe riser so would be better suited for a network gateway. The Wyse equivalents from that era would be Zx0Q/Dx0Q series although I don't think they had a PCIe version. Another interesting option is something like Fujitsu Futro S9010/S940 (4-core Goldmont, you get SHA ISA extensions which is nice), has a PCIe riser as well, but there are fewer of these on the secondary market. I recommend this charmingly old-fashioned site for reference on old thin clients https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/ https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/

It uses a CPU from 2014 however: https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Puma/AMD-G-Series%20GX-412TC.html https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Puma/AMD-G-Series%20GX-412TC....

vegardx 6y ago
Yes, but it also super compact, draws very little power and it has multiple network interfaces. It's also fanless, which makes it ideal for long running set-up-and-forget scenarios that home routers typically are.
- alrs 6y ago
  The HP T620+ is fanless, draws very little power, and has a PCIe slot so you can run multiple network interfaces. 4 cores, 25W TDP. model name : AMD GX-420CA SOC with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
  - zokier 6y ago
    So T620+ and APU2 have otherwise same CPU (quad Jaguar cores) but T620+ runs it at 2GHz/25W and APU2 at 1GHz/6W
    - puzzlingcaptcha 6y ago
      GX-420CA also has a GPU which GX-412TC lacks. In headless operation the difference would not be that much. For reference, I have a t620 with GX-415GA (TDP 15W) which draws 12W at the wall in a CPU load scenario. https://www.amd.com/en/system/files?file=2017-06/g-series-soc-product-brief.pdf https://www.amd.com/en/system/files?file=2017-06/g-series-so...

puzzlingcaptcha 6y ago

$150 (roughly the cost of APU2+case+power brick+16GB SSD) for a t620 would be daylight robbery. I got the non-plus variant on the secondary market for $30 delivered and it works very well, uses roughly the same CPU as APU2 as well (4-core AMD Jaguar derivative, AES-NI & AVX extensions). Power usage is 6W idle (headless), 12W full-load. UEFI is basic but functional, I can boot Linux straight from the EFI boot entry. t620 Plus has a PCIe riser so would be better suited for a network gateway. The Wyse equivalents from that era would be Zx0Q/Dx0Q series although I don't think they had a PCIe version. Another interesting option is something like Fujitsu Futro S9010/S940 (4-core Goldmont, you get SHA ISA extensions which is nice), has a PCIe riser as well, but there are fewer of these on the secondary market. I recommend this charmingly old-fashioned site for reference on old thin clients https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/ https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/