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>>Not even an attempt to formulate any coherent principle, just acccusations of bad faith, hypocrisy and racism, without any evidence whatsoever. The US Capito

>>Not even an attempt to formulate any coherent principle, just acccusations of bad faith, hypocrisy and racism, without any evidence whatsoever. The US Capitol got breached and looted by deranged insurrectionists on January 6th, 2021. There was a guy walking with a Confederate flag inside the building. And they were all supported and incited by many prominent conservative figures, including current politicians. Including the President himself. What other evidence do you need that these people have been acting on bad faith, hypocrisy and racism?

amadeuspagel 6y ago
> If Parler was a community of ISIS or any non-white non-christian extremists none of y’all would be insisting on Apple or Amazon’s requirement to do business with them and be complicit. This is the accusation of bad faith, hypocrisy and racism that I'm talking about. It's not an accusation against random parler users, but an accusation against those of us who do not think that AWS should decide what's allowed on the internet.
- meheleventyone 6y ago
  Pointing out that people only care because they are broadly sympathetic to Parler and the people on it isn’t untrue though.
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dominicjj 6y ago
There's nothing in the President's speech on the 6th that called for violence. Not a word. See for yourself: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-sav...
- enraged_camel 6y ago
  Incorrect. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/trump-speech-riot.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/trump-speech-riot.html
  - dominicjj 6y ago
    I can't read that because of the paywall but why should I when I have the original? The original does not call for violence. Case closed.
    - enraged_camel 6y ago
      Here are some relevant bits: -- “Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer. And we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. And we’re going to have to fight much harder. … “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them, because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.” “I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so, because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. … And I actually — I just spoke to Mike. I said: ‘Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage.’” “I also want to thank our 13 most courageous members of the U.S. Senate, Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Ron Johnson, Senator Josh Hawley. … Senators have stepped up. We want to thank them. I actually think, though, it takes, again, more courage not to step up, and I think a lot of those people are going to find that out. And you better start looking at your leadership, because your leadership has led you down the tubes.” “We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore, and that is what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal. … “You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can’t let that happen. These are the facts that you won’t hear from the fake news media. It’s all part of the suppression effort. They don’t want to talk about it. They don’t want to talk about it. … “We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” --- This is incitement, pure and simple. I mean, look at this shit: "We will never give up. We will never concede." "You will have an illegitimate president... and we can't let that happen." "...if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." What else do you need? Are you looking for instances where Trump told the crowd to attack and breach the Capitol before you're convinced that he's guilty?

amadeuspagel 6y ago

> If Parler was a community of ISIS or any non-white non-christian extremists none of y’all would be insisting on Apple or Amazon’s requirement to do business with them and be complicit. This is the accusation of bad faith, hypocrisy and racism that I'm talking about. It's not an accusation against random parler users, but an accusation against those of us who do not think that AWS should decide what's allowed on the internet.

meheleventyone 6y ago
Pointing out that people only care because they are broadly sympathetic to Parler and the people on it isn’t untrue though.
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dominicjj 6y ago

There's nothing in the President's speech on the 6th that called for violence. Not a word. See for yourself: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-sav...

enraged_camel 6y ago
Incorrect. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/trump-speech-riot.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/trump-speech-riot.html
- dominicjj 6y ago
  I can't read that because of the paywall but why should I when I have the original? The original does not call for violence. Case closed.
  - enraged_camel 6y ago
    Here are some relevant bits: -- “Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer. And we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. And we’re going to have to fight much harder. … “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them, because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.” “I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so, because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. … And I actually — I just spoke to Mike. I said: ‘Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage.’” “I also want to thank our 13 most courageous members of the U.S. Senate, Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Ron Johnson, Senator Josh Hawley. … Senators have stepped up. We want to thank them. I actually think, though, it takes, again, more courage not to step up, and I think a lot of those people are going to find that out. And you better start looking at your leadership, because your leadership has led you down the tubes.” “We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore, and that is what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal. … “You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can’t let that happen. These are the facts that you won’t hear from the fake news media. It’s all part of the suppression effort. They don’t want to talk about it. They don’t want to talk about it. … “We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” --- This is incitement, pure and simple. I mean, look at this shit: "We will never give up. We will never concede." "You will have an illegitimate president... and we can't let that happen." "...if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." What else do you need? Are you looking for instances where Trump told the crowd to attack and breach the Capitol before you're convinced that he's guilty?