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The evidence is now hidden in terms of linking to Parler itself, but people took screenshots of the things being posted on Parler. There were open calls for mu

The evidence is now hidden in terms of linking to Parler itself, but people took screenshots of the things being posted on Parler. There were open calls for murder and violence. This not protected speech even if it was in a genuinely public forum.

amadeuspagel 6y ago
> If Parler was a community of ISIS or any non-white non-christian extremists none of y’all would be insisting on Apple or Amazon’s requirement to do business with them and be complicit. This is the accusation without evidence that I'm talking about. It's not an accusation against random parler users, but an accusation against those of us who do not think that AWS should decide what's allowed on the internet.
d357r0y3r 6y ago
I can show you screenshots of tweets that are as bad or worse. The difference is that Twitter actually has built up, over time, the ability to moderate fairly well. The value of Twitter isn't really that you can post and view small snippets of text. It's that they've developed technology that allows them to effectively moderate. Any poorly moderated site eventually becomes associated with the right.
- noarchy 6y ago
  Agreed. One Parler, one could search for terms like "execute" or "hang" and get thousands of results. It was a vile place. The owners of the site have chosen to die on the hill of protecting that as "free speech".
guidovranken 6y ago
You can post outrageously racist, threatening hate speech on @jack's Internet Hate Machine all day long as long as you're attacking the race on which the woke hive mind has unanimously agreed that it is deserving of eternal deprecation and punishment on the basis of their melanin alone. https://i.imgur.com/fjbhBms.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fjbhBms.jpg As improbable as it sounds there are people who would much rather live in a world where people are judged on the basis of their character, instead of a race and gender based purity spiral, and those indeed constituted the majority of the Parler userbase when I spent some short time there.
- esoterica 6y ago
  I suppose it's very difficult for some people to notice hate when it's only directed at other people, not them.
swiley 6y ago
I'm by no means a parlor fan and don't think they really stood for free speech as much as something else. But: there are open calls for murder and violence on literally every internet forum. I've seen them on hackernews even!

amadeuspagel 6y ago

> If Parler was a community of ISIS or any non-white non-christian extremists none of y’all would be insisting on Apple or Amazon’s requirement to do business with them and be complicit. This is the accusation without evidence that I'm talking about. It's not an accusation against random parler users, but an accusation against those of us who do not think that AWS should decide what's allowed on the internet.

d357r0y3r 6y ago

I can show you screenshots of tweets that are as bad or worse. The difference is that Twitter actually has built up, over time, the ability to moderate fairly well. The value of Twitter isn't really that you can post and view small snippets of text. It's that they've developed technology that allows them to effectively moderate. Any poorly moderated site eventually becomes associated with the right.

noarchy 6y ago
Agreed. One Parler, one could search for terms like "execute" or "hang" and get thousands of results. It was a vile place. The owners of the site have chosen to die on the hill of protecting that as "free speech".

guidovranken 6y ago

You can post outrageously racist, threatening hate speech on @jack's Internet Hate Machine all day long as long as you're attacking the race on which the woke hive mind has unanimously agreed that it is deserving of eternal deprecation and punishment on the basis of their melanin alone. https://i.imgur.com/fjbhBms.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fjbhBms.jpg As improbable as it sounds there are people who would much rather live in a world where people are judged on the basis of their character, instead of a race and gender based purity spiral, and those indeed constituted the majority of the Parler userbase when I spent some short time there.

esoterica 6y ago
I suppose it's very difficult for some people to notice hate when it's only directed at other people, not them.

swiley 6y ago

I'm by no means a parlor fan and don't think they really stood for free speech as much as something else. But: there are open calls for murder and violence on literally every internet forum. I've seen them on hackernews even!