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Please note that I do not condonce violence of any kind, and I am okay with Parler being shut down. That said, I saw this tweet as a reply > They are banned fr
by m-p-3 6y ago
Please note that I do not condonce violence of any kind, and I am okay with Parler being shut down. That said, I saw this tweet as a reply
> They are banned from social media because they were inciting violence.
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> Their platform is being shutdown because they were inciting violence.
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> And now they are inciting violence because of that?
Some of these angry users obviously don't appreciate being silenced, no matter how awful their message is. I totally get silencing their message if it's threatening someone, but how else can they voice their opposition to Parler being shut down? They become deplatformed, and no one is willing to listen to them or publish their message.
At some point, they'll just reach a breaking point where they feel the only way to be listened is to use extreme measures. I frankly don't know what we can do to defuse this situation other than punishing those directly associated with hateful messages instead of deplatforming everyone on it.
- clavalle 6y ago> frankly don't know what we can do to defuse this situation other than punishing those directly associated with hateful messages Bingo. edit: I should clarify - hateful messages might not reach the bar, but calls to violence and other illegal activity do.
- thursday0987 6y agowe should round them all up and send then to concentration camps. /s
- Lutger 6y agoYou seem to assume deplatforming is not effective, is that true? Or do you disagree with it on moral grounds? I mean, 'we' (as in 'the west') try to deplatform Jihad based terrorism. I think it's a pretty effective strategy, just not complete. Why should we _not_ deplatform far right white supremacy violence and terror? Of course you also need a deradicalization approach, but that doesn't scale to the current levels of extremism. We need to stop this massive rise of fascist violence rooted in conspiracy thinking from spreading, which was amplified by social media in the first place, only then can a targeted deradicalization approach be effective.
- m-p-3 6y agoI'm not saying it's ineffective, I'm worried about unintended consequences that deplatforming could bring if they constantly feel silenced and how the violence could escalate from the resentment it can foster in these individuals.
- ttt0 6y agoForget about the social media for a second, just wait until people will come after their employment and PayPal or even banks will shut down their accounts.
- FabHK 6y agoFor now, I am not worried that the president of the United States has no platform to express his opinion.
- joshstrange 6y agoExcept, of course, he still has the biggest bully pulpit in the nation and could hold a press conference or rally whenever he wanted. Of all the people butt-hurt about being deplatformed the president has no leg to stand on being mad about it.
- FabHK 6y agoRight. By "I am not worried that X", I didn't mean that X is the case, yet I am not worried about it. I meant that I am not concerned that X could occur.
- jrs235 6y agoI understand there may be a large number of people on HN that don't share my beliefs and the beliefs of many Trump supporters, but the reality is we have a huge swath of the population that claim to be Christians that are following Trump instead of Christ... almost literally following Trump. Chasing him to his rallies and even following him on social media and whatever social platform he goes to. I believe Trump is exposing, and will assist in separating, the chaff from the wheat. I'm praying for everyone.
- Bancakes 6y ago>they *a handful or users. More numerous than hate groups on twitter.
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- tpoacher 6y agoIndeed; the relevant JFK quote comes to mind: “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."