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I don't know about Signal, but Telegram blurs the lines between a messaging app and a more general purpose social network. Telegram has public groups (supportin

I don't know about Signal, but Telegram blurs the lines between a messaging app and a more general purpose social network. Telegram has public groups (supporting 100s of thousands of users) and channels that feature comment sections. It wouldn't surprise me if Telegram ends up getting banned by app stores because of their resilience and respect of privacy.

siver_john 6y ago
Admittedly, I don't know about Telegram. But I would probably guess the distinction is still there because if I had to guess Telegram doesn't advertise those groups, you have to look for them, which decreases the condition of "audibly hearing the discussion." Where as Parler being a social media platform first wants to encourage the network effect and engagement among it's users, thus encouraging this open discussion and connection among potentially dangerous elements. Again in my non legal estimation of the law (not that I think anything I'm currently suggesting has been tried in court).
selykg 6y ago
The reason Parler was banned was not being willing or able to moderate the content. Telegram would only be banned, based on this info, if they weren't going to do the same thing.
joshxyz 6y ago
I'd say telegram isn't likely to get banned from app stores as there is intentionally no support for e2ee in group chats, and dm's aren't also e2ee by default.
- unicornporn 6y ago
  This. No one I know uses the E2EE chats in Telegram. They go with the default and they heard Telegram is "secure". To add to the inconvenience the secure chats do not sync between devices.
  - monocasa 6y ago
    Also, you just can't use E2EE on the desktop clients, and they have stated that they have no intention of fixing that. https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/118#issuecomment-72011592 https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/118#issue...
    - unicornporn 6y ago
      Works on the native macOS client though.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Didn't Apple get pushed to tell Telegram to get rid of posts in Belarus? If they hadn't made a deal out of it while also refusing to delete the posts, a ban could have been in their future.
- im3w1l 6y ago
  Parler wasn't e2e encrypted.

siver_john 6y ago

Admittedly, I don't know about Telegram. But I would probably guess the distinction is still there because if I had to guess Telegram doesn't advertise those groups, you have to look for them, which decreases the condition of "audibly hearing the discussion." Where as Parler being a social media platform first wants to encourage the network effect and engagement among it's users, thus encouraging this open discussion and connection among potentially dangerous elements. Again in my non legal estimation of the law (not that I think anything I'm currently suggesting has been tried in court).

selykg 6y ago

The reason Parler was banned was not being willing or able to moderate the content. Telegram would only be banned, based on this info, if they weren't going to do the same thing.

joshxyz 6y ago

I'd say telegram isn't likely to get banned from app stores as there is intentionally no support for e2ee in group chats, and dm's aren't also e2ee by default.

unicornporn 6y ago
This. No one I know uses the E2EE chats in Telegram. They go with the default and they heard Telegram is "secure". To add to the inconvenience the secure chats do not sync between devices.
- monocasa 6y ago
  Also, you just can't use E2EE on the desktop clients, and they have stated that they have no intention of fixing that. https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/118#issuecomment-72011592 https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/118#issue...
  - unicornporn 6y ago
    Works on the native macOS client though.
saagarjha 6y ago
Didn't Apple get pushed to tell Telegram to get rid of posts in Belarus? If they hadn't made a deal out of it while also refusing to delete the posts, a ban could have been in their future.
im3w1l 6y ago
Parler wasn't e2e encrypted.