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> 'The rioters had openly planned to disrupt the counting of Electoral College ballots for several weeks prior to the event, and had called for violence against
by nicoffeine 6y ago
> 'The rioters had openly planned to disrupt the counting of Electoral College ballots for several weeks prior to the event, and had called for violence against Congress, Pence, and law enforcement. Plans were coordinated on "alt-tech" platforms – distinct from larger social media platforms such as Reddit or Twitter, which have implemented bans to censor violent language and images. Websites like TheDonald.win, founded after its predecessor was banned from Reddit, the social networking service Parler, the chat app Telegram, Gab, and others, were used to discuss previous Trump rallies and to make plans for storming the Capitol. Many of the posters planned for violence prior to the event, with some individuals discussing how to avoid police on the streets, which tools to bring to help pry open doors, and how to smuggle weapons into Washington D.C. Following clashes with Washington D.C police during protests on December 12, 2020, the Proud Boys and far-right groups turned against supporting law enforcement. At least one group, Stop the Steal, posted on December 23, 2020, its plans to occupy the Capitol with promises to "escalate" if met with opposition from law enforcement.'
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- Grustaf 6y agoObviously they wanted to cause disruptions, just like any BLM or environmentalist action. That is not the same as taking over government.
- nicoffeine 6y agoThey wanted to occupy the Capitol building, using force if necessary, to nullify the results of the 2020 elections. What is that called, if you can't bring yourself to call it taking over the government?
- flippinburgers 6y agoI call it you being hyperbolic. They need to be punished according to the law for what they were doing, but you are not responding to the arguments. In no way were they properly mobilized for an actual takeover of the government. I just cannot believe that you actually believe that yourself.
- nicoffeine 6y agoThey believed they were properly mobilized. They believed the President would walk with them to the Capitol, because he said he would walk with them to the Capitol, after organizing a rally around the slogan "Stop the Steal" on the day they were counting votes. This is clear evidence "insurrection" according to Sen. Mitt Romney and others.[1] Here is a small sample of the chatter leading up to the 6th.[2] If the police stop a truck full of weapons and people with written plans to murder someone, but that someone has more guards and ammunition, it's still attempted murder. If it is "hyperbolic" to say it was a coup attempt when a group of people publicly stated they wanted a coup, found their way to DC, started a riot, broke into the US Capitol, and beat a cop to death, I guess I'm just hyperbolic. [1] https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gNOdcTXBGrcJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/06/democrats-republicans-reaction-trump/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gNOdcT... [2] https://i.redd.it/aqdl9s2pfua61.png https://i.redd.it/aqdl9s2pfua61.png
- nicoffeine 6y agoIn case you missed it, the FBI has just announced in a nationally televised briefing that they have formed a "sedition and conspiracy" task force, expected to last years. Maybe they're just being hyperbolic.
- flippinburgers 6y agoGood to hear. True experts can then determine the seriousness of the situation.
- nicoffeine 6y ago"People have just beat a cop to death on the capitol steps, shots have been fired in the capitol building, and the secret service has escorted everyone in the line of succession to a secure location." "We'd better wait for true experts to determine if this situation is serious."