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Sorry Teamspeak, but you lost me already. Back about 7 years ago when I spent more time online with friends in school, we tried to use Teamspeak multiple times,

by jjice 6y ago

Sorry Teamspeak, but you lost me already. Back about 7 years ago when I spent more time online with friends in school, we tried to use Teamspeak multiple times, but the audio quality was always awful. We didn't like Skype either, but the audio was still better, so we dealt with the bloat. Discord is king in my mind, without question. Being electron based makes it a bit heavy, but I can spare 200MB on my machine for some damn good chat and call.

momothereal 6y ago
Could've just been a network issue, or simply because it was 7 years ago. I've been using Teamspeak daily with my friends for 6 years, hosted on a 5$ digitalocean droplet and the audio is far superior compared to anything else. Discord is pretty sweet too, with screensharing, videos, better chat etc. But once more than 2 people talk at once in a channel, even with Nitro/whatever, it starts cutting people up. We can really feel the difference when going back to TS after a Discord call.
jagger27 6y ago
TeamSpeak supports Opus and I don't remember quality being an issue. I actually distinctly remember Discord's audio being worse than the best TeamSpeak settings when Discord launched and my friends switched over.
Mo3 6y ago
You probably had the audio codec configured improperly. Back then, TS used Speex in different bitrates. Today it is OPUS Voice (or OPUS Music), which has absolutely great audio quality. Combine this with very low latency if the server is in your proximity and you've got something that sounds and performs better than anything else - Slack, Discord, etc. "Damn good" chat might be true, but call? Only if you appreciate mediocre voice quality, a suboptimal RTC protocol and a good big chunk of latency. Discord feels sluggish, bloated and heavy compared to TS, and it's not just because it's Electron-based.
- deadbunny 6y ago
  Not at my PC to check ATM but I'm pretty sure Discord uses Opus codecs as well.
  - Mo3 6y ago
    Yeah, but on top of WebRTC = choppy, packet loss
650REDHAIR 6y ago
TS has always had better audio than Discord. Did you change the codecs?
Saris 6y ago
I think Teamspeak defaults to a fairly average codec bitrate choice, it's not great but not awful. You can easily change it to be significantly better than what Discord offers though. And because it's not running in electron TS voice is a lot more stable under packet loss situations.

by jjice 6y ago

momothereal 6y ago

Could've just been a network issue, or simply because it was 7 years ago. I've been using Teamspeak daily with my friends for 6 years, hosted on a 5$ digitalocean droplet and the audio is far superior compared to anything else. Discord is pretty sweet too, with screensharing, videos, better chat etc. But once more than 2 people talk at once in a channel, even with Nitro/whatever, it starts cutting people up. We can really feel the difference when going back to TS after a Discord call.

jagger27 6y ago

TeamSpeak supports Opus and I don't remember quality being an issue. I actually distinctly remember Discord's audio being worse than the best TeamSpeak settings when Discord launched and my friends switched over.

Mo3 6y ago

You probably had the audio codec configured improperly. Back then, TS used Speex in different bitrates. Today it is OPUS Voice (or OPUS Music), which has absolutely great audio quality. Combine this with very low latency if the server is in your proximity and you've got something that sounds and performs better than anything else - Slack, Discord, etc. "Damn good" chat might be true, but call? Only if you appreciate mediocre voice quality, a suboptimal RTC protocol and a good big chunk of latency. Discord feels sluggish, bloated and heavy compared to TS, and it's not just because it's Electron-based.

deadbunny 6y ago
Not at my PC to check ATM but I'm pretty sure Discord uses Opus codecs as well.
- Mo3 6y ago
  Yeah, but on top of WebRTC = choppy, packet loss

650REDHAIR 6y ago

TS has always had better audio than Discord. Did you change the codecs?

Saris 6y ago

I think Teamspeak defaults to a fairly average codec bitrate choice, it's not great but not awful. You can easily change it to be significantly better than what Discord offers though. And because it's not running in electron TS voice is a lot more stable under packet loss situations.