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The complete lack of sense of scale that is on display when making comparisons between either of those and a one-term clown who will go down as a footnote in hi

The complete lack of sense of scale that is on display when making comparisons between either of those and a one-term clown who will go down as a footnote in history is borderline disturbing. Get some perspective.

bitwize 6y ago
The Republican Party has, for fifty years, been the party of hate and white supremacy. The Republicans would've faded into history after Kennedy and Johnson incorporated civil rights into the Democratic platform had Nixon's aides not developed the strategy of winning enough votes to be a contender by appealing to all the disgruntled ex-Democrat racists. As a result, the Republican base has been a bunch of far-right loons who fantasize about overthrowing the government for much of that time. This was true long before Trump ever seriously considered politics. Trump just exposed it for what it was, making the American far right feel that finally they were being listened to, finally they were in control. And by approving the insurrection against the government, he accidentally got them to show their true colors. See, I was there the last time an idiosyncratic tycoon had a go at the White House and galvanized the right, namely Ross Perot. He roused the right wing from its malaise and, inadvertently, created the conditions of rage and hatred that led to Timothy McVeigh. So you're right -- Trump is just a footnote. The hatred he stirred up is much bigger than him.
- salawat 6y ago
  The Democrats right now are coming off as willing to sacrifice civil liberties wholesale to ensure their own power. This has gone far beyond "a return to sensibility". When you start outsourcing unconstitutional behavior to the private sector, I see issues. Then again, in a twisted sort of way, I'm 100% a large chunk of the population has just given everyone ample evidence they are not to be trusted. I'm sad it's come to that for us as a nation, but it's galvanized me to work with the handful of people I hold close to start building up Nexii of good business. So there is that. The American Ideal, and the values we're supposed to stand up for do not look like how people are acting right now. The rest of the world is watching this meltdown, and our wholesale burning ofany high ground we managed to achieve, and well... That's it. Sad to see is all.
  - themaninthedark 6y ago
    > I'm 100% a large chunk of the population has just given everyone ample evidence they are not to be trusted. I am interested in what makes you think a large chunk of the population can not be trusted? I think that the news has acted as a wedge to drive people apart as much as possible. The BLM protests have some good points but also have violence surrounding it. Trump supporters may not have the best points but there has been evidence of voter fraud in the past and asking for investigation is not a bad thing, violence is unacceptable.
- LunaSea 6y ago
  Let's just forget that the US got the current administration after an 8 year stint of a Democratic President. Candidate which managed two start two wars, didn't end a third war and managed to increase drone based deaths. So much for tolerance, less hate and protecting the marginalised.

bitwize 6y ago

The Republican Party has, for fifty years, been the party of hate and white supremacy. The Republicans would've faded into history after Kennedy and Johnson incorporated civil rights into the Democratic platform had Nixon's aides not developed the strategy of winning enough votes to be a contender by appealing to all the disgruntled ex-Democrat racists. As a result, the Republican base has been a bunch of far-right loons who fantasize about overthrowing the government for much of that time. This was true long before Trump ever seriously considered politics. Trump just exposed it for what it was, making the American far right feel that finally they were being listened to, finally they were in control. And by approving the insurrection against the government, he accidentally got them to show their true colors. See, I was there the last time an idiosyncratic tycoon had a go at the White House and galvanized the right, namely Ross Perot. He roused the right wing from its malaise and, inadvertently, created the conditions of rage and hatred that led to Timothy McVeigh. So you're right -- Trump is just a footnote. The hatred he stirred up is much bigger than him.

salawat 6y ago
The Democrats right now are coming off as willing to sacrifice civil liberties wholesale to ensure their own power. This has gone far beyond "a return to sensibility". When you start outsourcing unconstitutional behavior to the private sector, I see issues. Then again, in a twisted sort of way, I'm 100% a large chunk of the population has just given everyone ample evidence they are not to be trusted. I'm sad it's come to that for us as a nation, but it's galvanized me to work with the handful of people I hold close to start building up Nexii of good business. So there is that. The American Ideal, and the values we're supposed to stand up for do not look like how people are acting right now. The rest of the world is watching this meltdown, and our wholesale burning ofany high ground we managed to achieve, and well... That's it. Sad to see is all.
- themaninthedark 6y ago
  > I'm 100% a large chunk of the population has just given everyone ample evidence they are not to be trusted. I am interested in what makes you think a large chunk of the population can not be trusted? I think that the news has acted as a wedge to drive people apart as much as possible. The BLM protests have some good points but also have violence surrounding it. Trump supporters may not have the best points but there has been evidence of voter fraud in the past and asking for investigation is not a bad thing, violence is unacceptable.
LunaSea 6y ago
Let's just forget that the US got the current administration after an 8 year stint of a Democratic President. Candidate which managed two start two wars, didn't end a third war and managed to increase drone based deaths. So much for tolerance, less hate and protecting the marginalised.