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Apple's New M1 SoC Looks Great, Is Not Faster Than 98 Percent of PC Laptops

26 points by mardiyah 6y ago

zirkonit 6y ago
> First of all, no matter how good Apple’s ARM core truly is, there is no way in physics that a fanless quad-core Apple M1 is going to outperform an 8-core Intel Core i9. Well, just two months in, and this claim didn't age well at all.
- jack_riminton 6y ago
  The whole piece just reads like a butt-hurt PC guy who can't face reality
  - rusk 6y ago
    Maybe he’s hoping to get free stuff from Intel?
- zirkonit 6y ago
  To provide a bit more nuance to my snark - out of 8-core Intel Core i9's currently sold in laptops, in multi-core Geekbench 5, M1 loses to 9900K by 18%, beats 9980HK by 13% and 9880H by whopping 20%. In single-core, it is single fastest currently available processor, destroying the aforementioned i9's by 30% to 50%.
  - zirkonit 6y ago
    To add even more insult to the injury, the only laptop with 9900K you can currently buy in my market is a gaming monstrosity 3.5x more expensive AND 3.5x heavier than M1 MacBook Air.
- lmilcin 6y ago
  That is what happens when you invoke physics without understanding it. No, there is no law that would prevent new SoC to outperform 8-core Intel Core i9. Personally, when I see stupid argument like that I immediately stop reading. I know it is waste of time.
josemanuel 6y ago
Worth pointing that This is a piece of report from November 2020! Quite a lot of independent benchmarking has been made since.
ducksuck 6y ago
Apple lied? The more shocking part is that people believed them after a decade of gaslighting.
stopFalse 6y ago
Apple lied again? Not remotely surprising given their security and privacy track record.
jbverschoor 6y ago
Apple talks about laptops. Article rants on about high performance desktop pcs and self-built pcs.
- Tepix 6y ago
  Indeed. It also confuses "98% of laptops" and "98% of laptops sold". The highest end laptops sell a lot fewer units.
- w0utert 6y ago
  Yes,the article's own headline itself claims 'M1 is not faster than 98% of PC laptops', then goes out to 'prove' this by comparing it to 'high-end gaming laptops and desktop PCs'. I mean it's a pretty stupid, broad and useless claim a CPU is 'faster than 98% of PC laptops' considering this can be interpreted in so many ways at least one of them could make sense. But the article is even worse because of it, failing to even find a single sensible interpretation of Apple's claim that disproves it (which isn't hard at all, if you interpret '98% of PC laptops' as '98% of PC laptop models')
mardiyah 6y ago
"Specifically, Intel is touting that its new i7-11375H — the top-of-the-line model in the H35 lineup, with four cores, eight threads, and a boosted clock speed of up to 5GHz — offers the fastest single-thread performance of any laptop, matched only by Intel's best 45W H-series chip from last year" So the quote's confusing naive guys like us either which's actually true
- M4v3R 6y ago
  M1 destroys the i7-11375H as well, with single core Geekbench score 100 points higher (7% faster) and multi core 2000 points higher (26% faster). [0] https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_11375h-1892-vs-apple_m1-1804 https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_1137...
  - mardiyah 6y ago
    few still: https://www.appledystopia.com/news/intel-and-amd-processors-still-beat-apples-m1/ https://www.appledystopia.com/news/intel-and-amd-processors-...
beervirus 6y ago
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26 points by mardiyah 6y ago

> First of all, no matter how good Apple’s ARM core truly is, there is no way in physics that a fanless quad-core Apple M1 is going to outperform an 8-core Intel Core i9. Well, just two months in, and this claim didn't age well at all.

jack_riminton 6y ago
The whole piece just reads like a butt-hurt PC guy who can't face reality
- rusk 6y ago
  Maybe he’s hoping to get free stuff from Intel?
zirkonit 6y ago
To provide a bit more nuance to my snark - out of 8-core Intel Core i9's currently sold in laptops, in multi-core Geekbench 5, M1 loses to 9900K by 18%, beats 9980HK by 13% and 9880H by whopping 20%. In single-core, it is single fastest currently available processor, destroying the aforementioned i9's by 30% to 50%.
- zirkonit 6y ago
  To add even more insult to the injury, the only laptop with 9900K you can currently buy in my market is a gaming monstrosity 3.5x more expensive AND 3.5x heavier than M1 MacBook Air.
lmilcin 6y ago
That is what happens when you invoke physics without understanding it. No, there is no law that would prevent new SoC to outperform 8-core Intel Core i9. Personally, when I see stupid argument like that I immediately stop reading. I know it is waste of time.

josemanuel 6y ago

Worth pointing that This is a piece of report from November 2020! Quite a lot of independent benchmarking has been made since.

ducksuck 6y ago

Apple lied? The more shocking part is that people believed them after a decade of gaslighting.

stopFalse 6y ago

Apple lied again? Not remotely surprising given their security and privacy track record.

jbverschoor 6y ago

Apple talks about laptops. Article rants on about high performance desktop pcs and self-built pcs.

Tepix 6y ago
Indeed. It also confuses "98% of laptops" and "98% of laptops sold". The highest end laptops sell a lot fewer units.
w0utert 6y ago
Yes,the article's own headline itself claims 'M1 is not faster than 98% of PC laptops', then goes out to 'prove' this by comparing it to 'high-end gaming laptops and desktop PCs'. I mean it's a pretty stupid, broad and useless claim a CPU is 'faster than 98% of PC laptops' considering this can be interpreted in so many ways at least one of them could make sense. But the article is even worse because of it, failing to even find a single sensible interpretation of Apple's claim that disproves it (which isn't hard at all, if you interpret '98% of PC laptops' as '98% of PC laptop models')

mardiyah 6y ago

"Specifically, Intel is touting that its new i7-11375H — the top-of-the-line model in the H35 lineup, with four cores, eight threads, and a boosted clock speed of up to 5GHz — offers the fastest single-thread performance of any laptop, matched only by Intel's best 45W H-series chip from last year" So the quote's confusing naive guys like us either which's actually true

M4v3R 6y ago
M1 destroys the i7-11375H as well, with single core Geekbench score 100 points higher (7% faster) and multi core 2000 points higher (26% faster). [0] https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_11375h-1892-vs-apple_m1-1804 https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_1137...
- mardiyah 6y ago
  few still: https://www.appledystopia.com/news/intel-and-amd-processors-still-beat-apples-m1/ https://www.appledystopia.com/news/intel-and-amd-processors-...

beervirus 6y ago

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