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I wanted to argue against the 'Europeans are supercilious' comment, but this comment doesn't help. Dutch people do know that the extent of their bike lanes and

I wanted to argue against the 'Europeans are supercilious' comment, but this comment doesn't help. Dutch people do know that the extent of their bike lanes and infrastructure is incredible. I've only seen the new 'megafietsenstalling' at Den Haag Centraal train station complained about because 8000 bike parking spaces was not ambitious enough and is not expected to be enough space. And yet, it's the second largest in the world after Utrecht (also in the Netherlands). At a comparable train station in London, you would be lucky to find 10 bike parking spaces.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago
> I wanted to argue against the 'Europeans are supercilious' comment, but this comment doesn't help. Dutch people do know that the extent of their bike lanes and infrastructure is incredible. Yet you will find many Dutchmen in this thread, including the comment you're replying to, that express that this is the first time in their lives they've given it thought. > I've only seen the new 'megafietsenstalling' at Den Haag Centraal train station complained about because 8000 bike parking spaces was not ambitious enough and is not expected to be enough space. And yet, it's the second largest in the world after Utrecht (also in the Netherlands). One of the many reasons I favor the skateboard over the bicycle — it joins me in the train. > At a comparable train station in London, you would be lucky to find 10 bike parking spaces. Well I have never been at a London train station. I've been at Belgian, German, and French ones, and I did not notice any particular difference that stood out.
jules 6y ago
At a busy time, the average stationsfietsenstalling is overfull and has -500 places, so that's why people complain :)
- throwaway2245 6y ago
  Of course! In London, it can just be expected that there is not anywhere appropriate to park. And, nobody cares to do anything about this, so it seems futile to complain.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago

> I wanted to argue against the 'Europeans are supercilious' comment, but this comment doesn't help. Dutch people do know that the extent of their bike lanes and infrastructure is incredible. Yet you will find many Dutchmen in this thread, including the comment you're replying to, that express that this is the first time in their lives they've given it thought. > I've only seen the new 'megafietsenstalling' at Den Haag Centraal train station complained about because 8000 bike parking spaces was not ambitious enough and is not expected to be enough space. And yet, it's the second largest in the world after Utrecht (also in the Netherlands). One of the many reasons I favor the skateboard over the bicycle — it joins me in the train. > At a comparable train station in London, you would be lucky to find 10 bike parking spaces. Well I have never been at a London train station. I've been at Belgian, German, and French ones, and I did not notice any particular difference that stood out.

jules 6y ago

At a busy time, the average stationsfietsenstalling is overfull and has -500 places, so that's why people complain :)

throwaway2245 6y ago
Of course! In London, it can just be expected that there is not anywhere appropriate to park. And, nobody cares to do anything about this, so it seems futile to complain.