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The problem with your statement is that it is subjective. Amazon removing Parler hurt them from my subjective view a lot more than hosting them. I will never ho

The problem with your statement is that it is subjective. Amazon removing Parler hurt them from my subjective view a lot more than hosting them. I will never host anything on AWS since I know I could get removed at any time because of political reasons. I am sure Amazon hosts a lot of sites that I don't agree with but that doesn't mean I will hold them accountable. It is simply stupid. If you think Parler did something wrong, which I don't think they did (at least if you compare equal shitty places like Twitter), hold Parler accountable and not Amazon for hosting them. Don't be part of the angry mob. Be smarter.

M2Ys4U 6y ago
>I will never host anything on AWS since I know I could get removed at any time because of political reasons. >If you think Parler did something wrong, which I don't think they did Political reasons?! They didn't do anything wrong?! Parler was knowingly and willingly hosting content that was glorifying and inciting actual physical, deadly violence. Calls to skin politicians and their families are okay with you?! Nowhere that I know of protected that kind of thing as free expression. It's not political speech. It left the realm of political speech a long time ago.
nucleardog 6y ago
I said zero of the things you seem to be ascribing to me or assuming of me. Let me rephrase: "Parler paid its bills" is missing several variables in the equation. Do not read into it any further than that.
- ecmascript 6y ago
  Actually, you did. > There may not be an obvious monetary cost to the negative publicity, legal and other costs Parler was and would incur for Amazon, but they're costs nonetheless. What negative publicity do you mean if not political ones from one specific point of view? For me, parler did nothing other than offer an alternative to twitter which is equal shitty. Amazon didn't have any publicity regarding this matter until they decided, together with a lot of other megacorps to remove everything associated with parler. Now they have had a lot of publicity, which is in my view very negative since now everyone knows that if you want to host anything that support any other viewpoint than those held by american megacorps you can be removed. I have a hard time understanding how anyone can think this is good publicity.
  - nucleardog 6y ago
    > Don't be part of the angry mob. Be smarter. At no point did I express agreement with any of these things. That is what you seem to be finding in my speech that's not there. I thought explicitly clarifying might help. Trying to read into more than what's written and using that as a basis to tell me to "be smarter" is unnecessarily rude. My mistake for opening up a vaguely political thread on HN, I'm out.
    - ecmascript 6y ago
      I think you did tho, while not directly you did so indirectly by claiming that Parler had more costs than what they were billed. It just doesn't make sense, unless you believe Parler is bad in some kind of way and the only way they could've been bad is political.
      - tfehring 6y ago
        > It just doesn't make sense, unless you believe Parler is bad in some kind of way and the only way they could've been bad is political. Not the previous commenter, but Parler absolutely did commit wrongdoing, and that wrongdoing was absolutely not political. Calls for murder and violent insurrection are not political statements!
        ecmascript 6y ago
        Did parler the company call out for murder and violent insurrection? Do twitter call our for #killallmen when that hashtag is trending? Your double standards are so very obvious.

M2Ys4U 6y ago

>I will never host anything on AWS since I know I could get removed at any time because of political reasons. >If you think Parler did something wrong, which I don't think they did Political reasons?! They didn't do anything wrong?! Parler was knowingly and willingly hosting content that was glorifying and inciting actual physical, deadly violence. Calls to skin politicians and their families are okay with you?! Nowhere that I know of protected that kind of thing as free expression. It's not political speech. It left the realm of political speech a long time ago.

nucleardog 6y ago

I said zero of the things you seem to be ascribing to me or assuming of me. Let me rephrase: "Parler paid its bills" is missing several variables in the equation. Do not read into it any further than that.

ecmascript 6y ago
Actually, you did. > There may not be an obvious monetary cost to the negative publicity, legal and other costs Parler was and would incur for Amazon, but they're costs nonetheless. What negative publicity do you mean if not political ones from one specific point of view? For me, parler did nothing other than offer an alternative to twitter which is equal shitty. Amazon didn't have any publicity regarding this matter until they decided, together with a lot of other megacorps to remove everything associated with parler. Now they have had a lot of publicity, which is in my view very negative since now everyone knows that if you want to host anything that support any other viewpoint than those held by american megacorps you can be removed. I have a hard time understanding how anyone can think this is good publicity.
- nucleardog 6y ago
  > Don't be part of the angry mob. Be smarter. At no point did I express agreement with any of these things. That is what you seem to be finding in my speech that's not there. I thought explicitly clarifying might help. Trying to read into more than what's written and using that as a basis to tell me to "be smarter" is unnecessarily rude. My mistake for opening up a vaguely political thread on HN, I'm out.
  - ecmascript 6y ago
    I think you did tho, while not directly you did so indirectly by claiming that Parler had more costs than what they were billed. It just doesn't make sense, unless you believe Parler is bad in some kind of way and the only way they could've been bad is political.
    - tfehring 6y ago
      > It just doesn't make sense, unless you believe Parler is bad in some kind of way and the only way they could've been bad is political. Not the previous commenter, but Parler absolutely did commit wrongdoing, and that wrongdoing was absolutely not political. Calls for murder and violent insurrection are not political statements!
      - ecmascript 6y ago
        Did parler the company call out for murder and violent insurrection? Do twitter call our for #killallmen when that hashtag is trending? Your double standards are so very obvious.