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Do you have any reputable sources for that BLM agent provocateur?

by ginja 6y ago

f430 6y ago
Google BLM activist capitol hill his mugshot is there. He claims he was an independent journalist but are we just taking peoples word at face value now? Wow. Within minutes my comment was flagged for simply reporting what I read from mainstream media. I get that HN has a strong political bias but outright censorship of facts that threatens your narrative only hurts the rest of us with centrist views. I want Trump gone too, but we cannot get swept up by emotions because it has no place in the judicial system, or at least if shouldn't but that may be a tall order.
- klodolph 6y ago
  I couldn’t find anything to support your claim. https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-hill-riots-seattle-police-union-president-tweet-black-lives-matter-far-right-far-left https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-hill-riots-seattle-police... According to the article, someone identifying with the BLM movement was present in the mob that attacked capitol hill. There doesn’t seem to be any reason to believe that this person is some kind of agent provocateur. I did not find any report that he claimed to be a journalist, independent or otherwise. In any significant protest, mob, or riot there is going to be a mix of different people with different agendas. The idea that somehow the capitol hill mob was caused by agent provocateurs is… well, entirely possible but it doesn’t absolve anyone who participated of responsibility for their actions.
  - f430 6y ago
    > BLM movement was present in the mob that attacked capitol hill. You don't find this odd at all?
    - klodolph 6y ago
      White nationalists and hate groups like the proud boys show up at BLM protests. Why would it be odd that BLM shows up in the mob that attacked Capitol Hill? BLM, like most civil rights movements, is loosely organized and generally not playing 4D chess. Same applies to hate groups / white nationalist movements, in general. If there’s anything suspicious going on, it’s probably Parler. Seems like Parler was half agitprop and half honeypot. But I’d be willing to believe that this was incompetence & opportunism, since it seems like there’s plenty of incompetence and cut corners to go around. Rich people always fantasize about controlling the media but don’t realize how expensive it is to actually succeed at it, and Parler reads like a 21st century version of a rich family buying a newspaper to try and influence national politics (except it turns out, this is harder than they thought).

Do you have any reputable sources for that BLM agent provocateur?

by ginja 6y ago

Do you have any reputable sources for that BLM agent provocateur?

f430 6y ago

Google BLM activist capitol hill his mugshot is there. He claims he was an independent journalist but are we just taking peoples word at face value now? Wow. Within minutes my comment was flagged for simply reporting what I read from mainstream media. I get that HN has a strong political bias but outright censorship of facts that threatens your narrative only hurts the rest of us with centrist views. I want Trump gone too, but we cannot get swept up by emotions because it has no place in the judicial system, or at least if shouldn't but that may be a tall order.

klodolph 6y ago
I couldn’t find anything to support your claim. https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-hill-riots-seattle-police-union-president-tweet-black-lives-matter-far-right-far-left https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-hill-riots-seattle-police... According to the article, someone identifying with the BLM movement was present in the mob that attacked capitol hill. There doesn’t seem to be any reason to believe that this person is some kind of agent provocateur. I did not find any report that he claimed to be a journalist, independent or otherwise. In any significant protest, mob, or riot there is going to be a mix of different people with different agendas. The idea that somehow the capitol hill mob was caused by agent provocateurs is… well, entirely possible but it doesn’t absolve anyone who participated of responsibility for their actions.
- f430 6y ago
  > BLM movement was present in the mob that attacked capitol hill. You don't find this odd at all?
  - klodolph 6y ago
    White nationalists and hate groups like the proud boys show up at BLM protests. Why would it be odd that BLM shows up in the mob that attacked Capitol Hill? BLM, like most civil rights movements, is loosely organized and generally not playing 4D chess. Same applies to hate groups / white nationalist movements, in general. If there’s anything suspicious going on, it’s probably Parler. Seems like Parler was half agitprop and half honeypot. But I’d be willing to believe that this was incompetence & opportunism, since it seems like there’s plenty of incompetence and cut corners to go around. Rich people always fantasize about controlling the media but don’t realize how expensive it is to actually succeed at it, and Parler reads like a 21st century version of a rich family buying a newspaper to try and influence national politics (except it turns out, this is harder than they thought).