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I think the article is alluding to the wide span of requirements which is quite impossible to achieve in any field, even if you are a programmer. But thats not

I think the article is alluding to the wide span of requirements which is quite impossible to achieve in any field, even if you are a programmer. But thats not really the case in the real world, altough I have seen some job ads like that, where they sought people with experience in x86 assembly, C# and database modelling as well as front-end development.

mattdeboard 15y ago
I know what it's alluding to. It's just 1). silly to compare hiring a programmer to hiring a car driver for many reasons and 2). very unlikely anyone would hire a job posting for a [front-end dev|HTML&CSS|customer support] (choose your own metaphor) who has experience in kernel programming, which is what this faulty metaphor is alluding to. It may happen, but I'd be surprised if it's regular enough to be considered how programmers are hired.
- losethos 15y ago
  Hacker News is for entrepreneurs. I'm a start-up and do kernel programming as well as html and answerring the phone. http://www.losethos.com http://www.losethos.com
- Tangaroa 15y ago
  The link exaggerates, but web developer positions often require knowledge of every tool in the chain from the server to Photoshop and Flash. You have to be the front-end art guy and the front-end implementation guy and the back-end coder and the DBA and the system administrator, for $10-$12 per hour or less if it's a fixed-payment contract.
  - mattdeboard 15y ago
    Really? $10-12/hr? That's about what my internship pays. I've seen ridiculous job listings ("Developer needed -- M.S. in Computer Science required, PhD preferred"-type listing for what seem to be pretty standard programming jobs), but I assume they were paying significantly more than $10/12 hr
    - Tangaroa 15y ago
      My memory for the wage scale was stuck around 2002-2003, so add a decade's worth of inflation.
      - mattdeboard 15y ago
        With all respect, I think either the salary or the requirements have been exaggerated in the retelling since then.
  - radagaisus 15y ago
    10$-12$ an hour? really? it's less then I got when I was seventeen, and I don't even live in the US.
    - Deestan 15y ago
      In Norway, you can actually be sentenced to jail for paying those wages. Though I've only seen fines being applied in practice.
daeken 15y ago
> I have seen some job ads like that, where they sought people with experience in x86 assembly, C# and database modelling as well as front-end development. Finding people with that combination of skills is impossible? Unlikely, sure, but... I have those skills. In fact, I did everything from x86 asm to Python to DB work to writing a complete web frontend in my last startup (while I was the only tech person). Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see this constellation of skills in a number of startup founders, where you have to wear many hats.
bigiain 15y ago
> I have seen some job ads like that, where they sought people with experience in x86 assembly, C# and database modelling as well as front-end development. When I read specific and unlikely combinations of required experience like that, I always think "I wonder who's had that ad written in support of their H1B application?"

mattdeboard 15y ago

I know what it's alluding to. It's just 1). silly to compare hiring a programmer to hiring a car driver for many reasons and 2). very unlikely anyone would hire a job posting for a [front-end dev|HTML&CSS|customer support] (choose your own metaphor) who has experience in kernel programming, which is what this faulty metaphor is alluding to. It may happen, but I'd be surprised if it's regular enough to be considered how programmers are hired.

losethos 15y ago
Hacker News is for entrepreneurs. I'm a start-up and do kernel programming as well as html and answerring the phone. http://www.losethos.com http://www.losethos.com
Tangaroa 15y ago
The link exaggerates, but web developer positions often require knowledge of every tool in the chain from the server to Photoshop and Flash. You have to be the front-end art guy and the front-end implementation guy and the back-end coder and the DBA and the system administrator, for $10-$12 per hour or less if it's a fixed-payment contract.
- mattdeboard 15y ago
  Really? $10-12/hr? That's about what my internship pays. I've seen ridiculous job listings ("Developer needed -- M.S. in Computer Science required, PhD preferred"-type listing for what seem to be pretty standard programming jobs), but I assume they were paying significantly more than $10/12 hr
  - Tangaroa 15y ago
    My memory for the wage scale was stuck around 2002-2003, so add a decade's worth of inflation.
    - mattdeboard 15y ago
      With all respect, I think either the salary or the requirements have been exaggerated in the retelling since then.
- radagaisus 15y ago
  10$-12$ an hour? really? it's less then I got when I was seventeen, and I don't even live in the US.
  - Deestan 15y ago
    In Norway, you can actually be sentenced to jail for paying those wages. Though I've only seen fines being applied in practice.

daeken 15y ago

> I have seen some job ads like that, where they sought people with experience in x86 assembly, C# and database modelling as well as front-end development. Finding people with that combination of skills is impossible? Unlikely, sure, but... I have those skills. In fact, I did everything from x86 asm to Python to DB work to writing a complete web frontend in my last startup (while I was the only tech person). Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see this constellation of skills in a number of startup founders, where you have to wear many hats.

bigiain 15y ago

> I have seen some job ads like that, where they sought people with experience in x86 assembly, C# and database modelling as well as front-end development. When I read specific and unlikely combinations of required experience like that, I always think "I wonder who's had that ad written in support of their H1B application?"