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These companies all have very clear terms of service, where they reserve the right to remove you for any reason. Using their service is a privilege, not a right

These companies all have very clear terms of service, where they reserve the right to remove you for any reason. Using their service is a privilege, not a right. If everyone is “censoring” you, then there must be a good reason why they prefer to distance themselves. Of all those listed, you must be an especially toxic brand to be kicked from GoDaddy.

dmitrygr 6y ago
Nothing scares me more than thinking that you might actually mean this. The mobs are not always in the right, no matter how large a majority they have. Everyone in power at the time "censored "Giordano Bruno. He must have been hella toxic, according to you.
- jfengel 6y ago
  He was, actually. He got into fights with pretty much everybody -- and not just people in power. The story is about a billion times more complicated than "the church burned him to hide the truth about science". He was, indeed, a heretic, as the Church defined it, and "science" had little to nothing to do with it. That does not, of course, justify any of what happened to Bruno. But the oft-repeated story of "Giordano Bruno died so that I could have an all-purpose martyr for anything I want to disagree with" is false. It's worth reading a biography, or at least the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
- type0 6y ago
  > The mobs are not always in the right, no matter how large a majority they have. Sometimes those are the only in the right (or should I say left) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks
lightgreen 6y ago
This is exactly how China works. If you don't have enough social credit, everyone is censoring you. And it is your fault of course, correct your behavior.
- loceng 6y ago
  Are you comparing the US with China, where the CCP controls everything, a non-elected government, and literally has their fingers in every company of importance there? Maybe I'm misinterpreting your comment, your intent is a bit ambiguous.
  - throwaway99878 6y ago
    I hate when I spent 5 minutes typing the comment and then HN tells me I'm blocked for unknown amount of time because I was downvoted. So replying with a different account to keep the comment. Sorry dang. The original response: Of course not. I'm just pointing to the flaw in this argument: if everybody ban you, then you are the problem. Sometimes there are other reasons for that than you, and I provided with an example. > literally has their fingers in every company of importance there However, now you said it, authoritarian states work differently. They don't tell every company what they should do. Each private company already knows what it should do, otherwise they will have certain consequences like change of ownership. But again, putting the equal sign between PRC and the US is wrong at the moment.
    - scanny 6y ago
      > I'm blocked for unknown amount of time because I was downvoted Is that really a thing on HN? Seems pretty unfair to block someone because of an unpopular view, isn't flagging used for that when a comment breaches the guidelines?
      - sawjet 6y ago
        > > I'm blocked for unknown amount of time because I was downvoted > Is that really a thing on HN? Seems pretty unfair to block someone because of an unpopular view, isn't flagging used for that when a comment breaches the guidelines? Hamster news is not a safe space for wrongthink.
      - evgen 6y ago
        No, you don't get blocked for an unpopular view or for violating some nebulous 'groupthink'. You need to clearly cross the line several times to get blocked.
loceng 6y ago
So long as it's not a single entity controlling all of those other entities - like federal government - then I agree.
toast0 6y ago
> they reserve the right to remove you for any reason. Using their service is a privilege, not a right. > If everyone is “censoring” you, then there must be a good reason why they prefer to distance themselves. Or it could just be an any reason.
jrnichols 6y ago
ar15.com is owned by Brownell's sports. it's hardly an "especially toxic brand." GoDaddy really stepped over a line here and to this point has nothing to say for itself.
johnnyscizz 6y ago
I think they should have the same rights as the local baker or local florist. Buying a wedding cake or flowers is a privilege.

dmitrygr 6y ago

Nothing scares me more than thinking that you might actually mean this. The mobs are not always in the right, no matter how large a majority they have. Everyone in power at the time "censored "Giordano Bruno. He must have been hella toxic, according to you.

jfengel 6y ago
He was, actually. He got into fights with pretty much everybody -- and not just people in power. The story is about a billion times more complicated than "the church burned him to hide the truth about science". He was, indeed, a heretic, as the Church defined it, and "science" had little to nothing to do with it. That does not, of course, justify any of what happened to Bruno. But the oft-repeated story of "Giordano Bruno died so that I could have an all-purpose martyr for anything I want to disagree with" is false. It's worth reading a biography, or at least the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
type0 6y ago
> The mobs are not always in the right, no matter how large a majority they have. Sometimes those are the only in the right (or should I say left) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks

lightgreen 6y ago

This is exactly how China works. If you don't have enough social credit, everyone is censoring you. And it is your fault of course, correct your behavior.

loceng 6y ago
Are you comparing the US with China, where the CCP controls everything, a non-elected government, and literally has their fingers in every company of importance there? Maybe I'm misinterpreting your comment, your intent is a bit ambiguous.
- throwaway99878 6y ago
  I hate when I spent 5 minutes typing the comment and then HN tells me I'm blocked for unknown amount of time because I was downvoted. So replying with a different account to keep the comment. Sorry dang. The original response: Of course not. I'm just pointing to the flaw in this argument: if everybody ban you, then you are the problem. Sometimes there are other reasons for that than you, and I provided with an example. > literally has their fingers in every company of importance there However, now you said it, authoritarian states work differently. They don't tell every company what they should do. Each private company already knows what it should do, otherwise they will have certain consequences like change of ownership. But again, putting the equal sign between PRC and the US is wrong at the moment.
  - scanny 6y ago
    > I'm blocked for unknown amount of time because I was downvoted Is that really a thing on HN? Seems pretty unfair to block someone because of an unpopular view, isn't flagging used for that when a comment breaches the guidelines?
    - sawjet 6y ago
      > > I'm blocked for unknown amount of time because I was downvoted > Is that really a thing on HN? Seems pretty unfair to block someone because of an unpopular view, isn't flagging used for that when a comment breaches the guidelines? Hamster news is not a safe space for wrongthink.
    - evgen 6y ago
      No, you don't get blocked for an unpopular view or for violating some nebulous 'groupthink'. You need to clearly cross the line several times to get blocked.

loceng 6y ago

So long as it's not a single entity controlling all of those other entities - like federal government - then I agree.

toast0 6y ago

> they reserve the right to remove you for any reason. Using their service is a privilege, not a right. > If everyone is “censoring” you, then there must be a good reason why they prefer to distance themselves. Or it could just be an any reason.

jrnichols 6y ago

ar15.com is owned by Brownell's sports. it's hardly an "especially toxic brand." GoDaddy really stepped over a line here and to this point has nothing to say for itself.

johnnyscizz 6y ago

I think they should have the same rights as the local baker or local florist. Buying a wedding cake or flowers is a privilege.