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First it was the social networks (Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, etc.). Then it was the app stores (Apple, Google). Then it was the payment processors (Stripe, etc.
by foofoo4u 6y ago
First it was the social networks (Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, etc.).
Then it was the app stores (Apple, Google).
Then it was the payment processors (Stripe, etc.).
Then it was the cloud computing platforms (Amazon).
Now its the domain name registrars (GoDaddy).
We're working our way up the stack on censorship.
- thatguy0900 6y agoWaiting for the tor browser to announce the takedowns of sites at this point
- lightgreen 6y agoIt is only half joke: independent browser developers already call for "more than deplatforming". https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-d...
- vlucas 6y agoSame. I literally blogged about this last month: https://vancelucas.com/blog/when-fact-checking-comes-to-web-browsers/ https://vancelucas.com/blog/when-fact-checking-comes-to-web-...
- type0 6y agoAfter their recent post [0], I just can't wait for the new update from the Mozilla Firefox that will have this fabulous feature built in /s I have only seen yours and some other speculations as of yet [1], but you'll never know, weirder things have happened. Luckily we can start using Surf browser instead. 0. https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-d... 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9xK44imGVc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9xK44imGVc
- flukus 6y agoThis is what should have been protected all along, this is the infrastructure level and if anywhere has a universal access obligations this should be it. Unfortunately people were crying about being deplatformed and losing their audience for years, they never cared about securing their right to self publish on the internet.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoLast I checked there’s a zillion TLDs wholly privately owned, even if all the registrars won’t have you it’s a whole ass internet out there.
- erichocean 6y agoChrome could block domains, and so could top-level DNS.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoAnd hosts files still exist shrugemoji
- lightgreen 6y agoAnd pigeon post in case your provider disconnected you.
- loceng 6y agoThe requirement of cooperation of different private entities on different layers is a feature, not a bug. If you're behaving so badly that's unacceptable to all of these different people and organizations, maybe they're not the problem? Meanwhile, no one's free speech is being prevented - convenience of reach is certainly being limited, however once again that's a feature.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoStop crying and grow your own stack. I beg you. I don’t want you to be shut down. I just want to stop hearing you whine about other people not using their resources on your behalf against their judgment. Go, build your safe space where no one can take it away. You have nothing to lose but your whimper.
- sawjet 6y agoWasn't AR15.com already a safe space?
- eyelidlessness 6y agoApparently not, it had a dependency on a domain registrar with different expectations about what they were facilitating.
- sawjet 6y agoWhat did they facilitate that was fine for years until today?
- Spivak 6y agoPolitical capital and the fact that it will get lost in the noise of all the other deplatforming?
- eyelidlessness 6y agoHonestly I don’t care? It’s not my business to tell people to facilitate or not. It’s increasingly absurd to me that this “free speech” movement has so little regard for free association.
- jki275 6y agoon AWS? Not at all.
- plasticxme 6y agoThese companies all have very clear terms of service, where they reserve the right to remove you for any reason. Using their service is a privilege, not a right. If everyone is “censoring” you, then there must be a good reason why they prefer to distance themselves. Of all those listed, you must be an especially toxic brand to be kicked from GoDaddy.
- dmitrygr 6y agoNothing scares me more than thinking that you might actually mean this. The mobs are not always in the right, no matter how large a majority they have. Everyone in power at the time "censored "Giordano Bruno. He must have been hella toxic, according to you.
- jfengel 6y agoHe was, actually. He got into fights with pretty much everybody -- and not just people in power. The story is about a billion times more complicated than "the church burned him to hide the truth about science". He was, indeed, a heretic, as the Church defined it, and "science" had little to nothing to do with it. That does not, of course, justify any of what happened to Bruno. But the oft-repeated story of "Giordano Bruno died so that I could have an all-purpose martyr for anything I want to disagree with" is false. It's worth reading a biography, or at least the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
- type0 6y ago> The mobs are not always in the right, no matter how large a majority they have. Sometimes those are the only in the right (or should I say left) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks
- lightgreen 6y agoThis is exactly how China works. If you don't have enough social credit, everyone is censoring you. And it is your fault of course, correct your behavior.
- piracy1 6y agoIMO it would be way way worse if it was ICANN not a rando registrar.