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I am a conservative who doesn't think it was stolen. But I have to point out the double standard. For ~3 years democrats claimed trump only won 2016 because Put

I am a conservative who doesn't think it was stolen. But I have to point out the double standard. For ~3 years democrats claimed trump only won 2016 because Putin helped him. And they claimed for months that Stacy Ambrams was the actual winner of the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial race. Now Republicans are the devil for not accepting this election?

selectodude 6y ago
>For ~3 years democrats claimed trump only won 2016 because Putin helped him. Of which there was concrete proof of election meddling by Russia. Obviously we can't litigate what-ifs, but I'm not sure how the two can be separated. >Stacey Abrams was the actual winner of the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial race. The guy she was running against was the secretary of state at the time and passed several laws that were very clearly meant to suppress voter turnout before an election that he was standing in. >Now Republicans are the devil for not accepting this election? Yes, and for inciting violence and beating a police officer to death with a flag of the steps of the Capitol while saying the pledge of allegiance. Either work to make sure it never happens again or be inextricably linked to it.
- agensaequivocum 6y ago
  Case and point.
heavyset_go 6y ago
> Now Republicans are the devil for not accepting this election? Now? You do realize that the current president is the ringleader of birtherism, right?
- Zuider 6y ago
  >You do realize that the current president is the ringleader of birtherism, right? Hillary Clinton, in her 2008 presidential campaign brought the fringe conspiracy theory of 'birtherism' into the mainstream as a rhetorical weapon to discredit her rival, Barack Obama, at least in the eyes of enough potential voters to do some harm. Donald Trump did bring the matter up in his campaign, but quickly repudiated it and never mentioned it again. It does not look like a sustainable assertion that Trump is, or ever was the 'ringleader' of 'birtherism.'
eli_gottlieb 6y ago
Dems bitch and moan about every election they lose. But they don't try to assassinate or ransom elected officials.
- agensaequivocum 6y ago
  And it's only fringe people on the right that tried that. All mainstream right leaning people disavowed it.

selectodude 6y ago

>For ~3 years democrats claimed trump only won 2016 because Putin helped him. Of which there was concrete proof of election meddling by Russia. Obviously we can't litigate what-ifs, but I'm not sure how the two can be separated. >Stacey Abrams was the actual winner of the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial race. The guy she was running against was the secretary of state at the time and passed several laws that were very clearly meant to suppress voter turnout before an election that he was standing in. >Now Republicans are the devil for not accepting this election? Yes, and for inciting violence and beating a police officer to death with a flag of the steps of the Capitol while saying the pledge of allegiance. Either work to make sure it never happens again or be inextricably linked to it.

agensaequivocum 6y ago
Case and point.

heavyset_go 6y ago

> Now Republicans are the devil for not accepting this election? Now? You do realize that the current president is the ringleader of birtherism, right?

Zuider 6y ago
>You do realize that the current president is the ringleader of birtherism, right? Hillary Clinton, in her 2008 presidential campaign brought the fringe conspiracy theory of 'birtherism' into the mainstream as a rhetorical weapon to discredit her rival, Barack Obama, at least in the eyes of enough potential voters to do some harm. Donald Trump did bring the matter up in his campaign, but quickly repudiated it and never mentioned it again. It does not look like a sustainable assertion that Trump is, or ever was the 'ringleader' of 'birtherism.'

eli_gottlieb 6y ago

Dems bitch and moan about every election they lose. But they don't try to assassinate or ransom elected officials.

agensaequivocum 6y ago
And it's only fringe people on the right that tried that. All mainstream right leaning people disavowed it.