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That's not Youtube's fault. They're not stopping anyone from starting and promoting a competing service. Again, DoJ has done fuck all to break them up, so, wh

That's not Youtube's fault. They're not stopping anyone from starting and promoting a competing service. Again, DoJ has done fuck all to break them up, so, why are they considered a monopoly? And why should a private business that isn't a monopoly be forced to host (edit: or link to) anything they don't want to? Whether I believe this or not, it's a fair argument to use against conservatives here, because that's what they say all the time.

starik36 6y ago
> That's not Youtube's fault I am not blaming YouTube. In fact, good on them for beating everyone to the punch. Nonetheless, they are in a situation where they are the only game in town and should either act like that or be made to act that way. I mean, if the Edison electric company (they only local power provider) decided to kick me off their grid cause my views don't match theirs or for whatever reason, I'd be screwed. That's why they are treated as a utility, and not just another private company. > DoJ has done fuck all to break them up There is no disagreement here - I am just giving you my opinion on the way things should be©. DoJ should be more aggressive, but they are hamstrung by laws written in the days of robber barons. They couldn't even break up Microsoft 20 years ago when it was clear that monopoly position abuses took place on a regular basis. > it's a fair argument to use against conservatives here I'll concede this point. However, the well known "first they came for the %group% and I didn't care cause I wasn't a member" applies here. Cause when they come to demonetize you, ain't nobody gonna be around to help.
- pmiller2 6y ago
  Well, when they come for the fascists, I'll care. I'll be waving goodbye when they're packed on the train. As far as Youtube being "the only game in town," that's not relevant as long as they're legally not considered a monopoly. Edit: Also, why should Youtube unilaterally decide it's a monopoly and start being nice? At what amount of market share is a company required to put the kid gloves on? Again, I'm more playing Devil's advocate here, but these are the arguments you'll hear from right wingers all the time.
  - starik36 6y ago
    > right wingers all the time which is a completely legitimate position to be in.

starik36 6y ago

> That's not Youtube's fault I am not blaming YouTube. In fact, good on them for beating everyone to the punch. Nonetheless, they are in a situation where they are the only game in town and should either act like that or be made to act that way. I mean, if the Edison electric company (they only local power provider) decided to kick me off their grid cause my views don't match theirs or for whatever reason, I'd be screwed. That's why they are treated as a utility, and not just another private company. > DoJ has done fuck all to break them up There is no disagreement here - I am just giving you my opinion on the way things should be©. DoJ should be more aggressive, but they are hamstrung by laws written in the days of robber barons. They couldn't even break up Microsoft 20 years ago when it was clear that monopoly position abuses took place on a regular basis. > it's a fair argument to use against conservatives here I'll concede this point. However, the well known "first they came for the %group% and I didn't care cause I wasn't a member" applies here. Cause when they come to demonetize you, ain't nobody gonna be around to help.

pmiller2 6y ago
Well, when they come for the fascists, I'll care. I'll be waving goodbye when they're packed on the train. As far as Youtube being "the only game in town," that's not relevant as long as they're legally not considered a monopoly. Edit: Also, why should Youtube unilaterally decide it's a monopoly and start being nice? At what amount of market share is a company required to put the kid gloves on? Again, I'm more playing Devil's advocate here, but these are the arguments you'll hear from right wingers all the time.
- starik36 6y ago
  > right wingers all the time which is a completely legitimate position to be in.