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Freedom of speech != B&E, looting, vandalizing, threatening physical violence. Freedom of speech protects the expression of beliefs and ideas, and there is a l
by aksss 6y ago
Freedom of speech != B&E, looting, vandalizing, threatening physical violence.
Freedom of speech protects the expression of beliefs and ideas, and there is a legal line between that and inciting riot.
Punish when the line is crossed, but protect the expression of ideas and beliefs up to that line.
Risk intolerance is behind the fear of letting people close to the line, but that's where we talk about slippery slopes - your risk tolerance is not the same as others, and if you start moving the bar down it happens for everybody (even the most righteous causes) not just the people you hate today.
> if {party people} do not come around in next few years, I fear for America
It's interesting that I've heard that in years past but from my friends on the right talking about Democrats and violent protests. I'm not justifying the actions in the Capitol (I condemn them frequently), but listening to people aligned with either part I do find it interesting that this feels like a [downward] spiral. The question is how to break out of it and reset.
- res0nat0r 6y agoThe issue is the storming of the capitol last week is directly related to online disinformation, propaganda and the lack of removal of violent and lying rhetoric, and finally thanks to some real world violence the online companies are starting to crack down just out of fear of culpability and likely eventual regulation. > It's interesting that I've heard that in years past but from my friends on the right talking about Democrats and violent protests. The issue with this is one is rooted in reality and one is not. The biggest danger to US citizens right now is due to right wing violence, not left wing. https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-3...
- FFRefresh 6y ago> The biggest danger to US citizens right now is due to right wing violence, not left wing. False dichotomy. You are hyper-focused on the american partisan culture war, that you've lost sight of the bigger picture. I'm guessing you consume a lot of content from the news & entertainment companies, as they do tend to convey this as well. Let's take your 'right-wing extremists have killed 117 people since 2010' point that was presented in the article. Where does that 117 rank in terms of causes of death since 2010?