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Part of the threat to them was the potential loss of the court, as well, with the "pack the court" talk. /r/politics, prior to the election, was in a fervor ab

by mod 6y ago

Part of the threat to them was the potential loss of the court, as well, with the "pack the court" talk. /r/politics, prior to the election, was in a fervor about how this might be the last "true election" of their lifetime. That they would forever lose their voice, etc. Have their rights stripped. It's not so wild that the people on the other side would feel the same way, especially when the talk was literally about taking away the ability for Republicans to control any branches and "making sure this can never happen again." Besides packing the court, other ideas to accomplish that included redistricting, mandatory voting, and adding some left-leaning territories as states.

ordinaryradical 6y ago
The r/politics crowd spouting that crap are also fools, just a left wing variant. The extremes have to convince you “everything lies in the balance” to get you to go along with their kookery. We should indulge neither end of the spectrum with foolish talk or justifications of their outlandish theories and feelings of (unjustified) grievance and fear.
bilbo0s 6y ago
Are any of those things unconstitutional? If so, take it to court. If not, then suck it up. I'm tired of apologizing for my country to every group with a grievance and a camera. Especially when they all invariably claim to be loyal citizens and patriots. Now along comes an aggrieved group that wants even more than my apology, they want me to give up my constitutional order. How 'bout NO. That attack at the Capitol has put me over the top. You want change? Vote like everyone else and accept the outcome. It's time to stop coddling these people.
sneeze-slayer 6y ago
I mean, isn't that the fault of the Republican party that they can only maintain control by gerrymandering, having millions of American citizens without representation, supporting anti-democratic institutions, and voter suppression? If the idea of having more voter participation is antithetical to your political party, perhaps it is time to change your party.
- pmiller2 6y ago
  > I mean, isn't that the fault of the Republican party that they can only maintain control by gerrymandering, having millions of American citizens without representation, supporting anti-democratic institutions, and voter suppression? > If the idea of having more voter participation is antithetical to your political party, perhaps it is time to change your party. Indeed. The GOP is undoubtedly ultra-right wing, and this sounds mighty authoritarian. We've seen a pretty strong nationalist streak in them recently, as well. Conservatism pretty much is the idea that "everyone has their place, and they should stay in their place." Can anyone tell me how that's not fascist? Reminder: > Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Definitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Definitions

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ordinaryradical 6y ago

The r/politics crowd spouting that crap are also fools, just a left wing variant. The extremes have to convince you “everything lies in the balance” to get you to go along with their kookery. We should indulge neither end of the spectrum with foolish talk or justifications of their outlandish theories and feelings of (unjustified) grievance and fear.

bilbo0s 6y ago

Are any of those things unconstitutional? If so, take it to court. If not, then suck it up. I'm tired of apologizing for my country to every group with a grievance and a camera. Especially when they all invariably claim to be loyal citizens and patriots. Now along comes an aggrieved group that wants even more than my apology, they want me to give up my constitutional order. How 'bout NO. That attack at the Capitol has put me over the top. You want change? Vote like everyone else and accept the outcome. It's time to stop coddling these people.

sneeze-slayer 6y ago

I mean, isn't that the fault of the Republican party that they can only maintain control by gerrymandering, having millions of American citizens without representation, supporting anti-democratic institutions, and voter suppression? If the idea of having more voter participation is antithetical to your political party, perhaps it is time to change your party.

pmiller2 6y ago
> I mean, isn't that the fault of the Republican party that they can only maintain control by gerrymandering, having millions of American citizens without representation, supporting anti-democratic institutions, and voter suppression? > If the idea of having more voter participation is antithetical to your political party, perhaps it is time to change your party. Indeed. The GOP is undoubtedly ultra-right wing, and this sounds mighty authoritarian. We've seen a pretty strong nationalist streak in them recently, as well. Conservatism pretty much is the idea that "everyone has their place, and they should stay in their place." Can anyone tell me how that's not fascist? Reminder: > Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Definitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Definitions