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^ Indeed, I’m trying to offer the opposing view. Remember, currently the left are impeaching the president with 9 days left (literally taking any future office

^ Indeed, I’m trying to offer the opposing view. Remember, currently the left are impeaching the president with 9 days left (literally taking any future office from him). Worse, some elected officials are saying the republicans involved in challenging the election integrity (which is constitutional and unrelated), aided in causing the “insurrection”. They feel they’re being backed into a corner.

whateveracct 6y ago
His impeachment seems valid enough to me. 9 days left doesn't matter - if the President acts unlawfully in his last week, it would be Congress' duty to impeach, convict, and ban from a future term.
pixl97 6y ago
Democracy has backed them into a corner, now they are rejecting democracy.
fatbird 6y ago
But they're not being backed into a corner. They're factually wrong about almost everything that motivated the riots on Jan. 6th. They're self-insulating in a media bubble designed to cater to them. When engaged in dialogue, they're aggressively ignorant and accusatory. What do you do with a group of people claiming they don't have a voice under those circumstances? What do you do when they're acting out violent insurrectionist fantasies under those circumstances?
bilbo0s 6y ago
And? Do you know how long I've sat and listened to minority groups complain about being backed into a corner and having no voice? To my knowledge, none have ever gathered thousands of believers to attack the capitol in an attempt to thwart the implementation of the constitutional order. Given the number of groups that are backed in a corner in the US, given the number of groups that have no voice in the US, those are tenuous excuses at best. You want change? Do it the proper way like everyone else has to. Peaceful demonstrations that bring attention so that you can educate the population about your cause. Shortcuts like appealing to arms bring quick results but are doomed to failure long term.
ArtDev 6y ago
Impeachment also strips him of SOME of the generous privileges ex-presidents receive such as "pension, security detail, and travel allowance." He does not deserve any of those privileges. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/impeached-president-lose-benefits/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/impeached-president-lose-b...

whateveracct 6y ago

His impeachment seems valid enough to me. 9 days left doesn't matter - if the President acts unlawfully in his last week, it would be Congress' duty to impeach, convict, and ban from a future term.

pixl97 6y ago

Democracy has backed them into a corner, now they are rejecting democracy.

fatbird 6y ago

But they're not being backed into a corner. They're factually wrong about almost everything that motivated the riots on Jan. 6th. They're self-insulating in a media bubble designed to cater to them. When engaged in dialogue, they're aggressively ignorant and accusatory. What do you do with a group of people claiming they don't have a voice under those circumstances? What do you do when they're acting out violent insurrectionist fantasies under those circumstances?

bilbo0s 6y ago

And? Do you know how long I've sat and listened to minority groups complain about being backed into a corner and having no voice? To my knowledge, none have ever gathered thousands of believers to attack the capitol in an attempt to thwart the implementation of the constitutional order. Given the number of groups that are backed in a corner in the US, given the number of groups that have no voice in the US, those are tenuous excuses at best. You want change? Do it the proper way like everyone else has to. Peaceful demonstrations that bring attention so that you can educate the population about your cause. Shortcuts like appealing to arms bring quick results but are doomed to failure long term.

ArtDev 6y ago

Impeachment also strips him of SOME of the generous privileges ex-presidents receive such as "pension, security detail, and travel allowance." He does not deserve any of those privileges. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/impeached-president-lose-benefits/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/impeached-president-lose-b...