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I'm all for end-to-end encryption, but if you have 250 people in the chat I'm not sure it'll be very effective. It only takes one of those people to leak the me
by thekyle 6y ago
I'm all for end-to-end encryption, but if you have 250 people in the chat I'm not sure it'll be very effective. It only takes one of those people to leak the messages.
When you get into groups with hundreds of members I think Slack and Discord are probably the dominant chat apps there.
- pmlnr 6y agoIndeed. But ever since Whatsapp started advertising e2e, people want it.
- snvzz 6y agoNon room members shouldn't be able to read the text in the room. That's quite basic. As far as old messages goes, Matrix rooms do not allow new participants to see old history, unless explicitly enabled. >if you have 250 people in the chat I'm not sure it'll be very effective. It only takes one of those people to leak the messages. Ultimately, the system is only good when the members of a room deliberately leaking messages is the primary concern; It means the system is working as intended, thus privacy is a matter of trust on the conversation members, as it is away from keyboard.
- pmlnr 6y agoNeither does XMPP, given it doesn't store it ;)
- snvzz 6y agoBut XMPP has the non-trivial problem of e2ee as an extension added very late and not the default. I can't suggest XMPP to non-technical people, because I know they'll end up talking to each other with neither e2ee nor awareness of lack of e2ee.
- kitkat_new 6y ago> Neither does XMPP, given it doesn't store it ;) and how is it achieved when you want that? Standard feature that is expected by people using Telegram, Matrix, Slack, etc.
- pmlnr 6y agoNot by the people used to WhatsApp. That doesn't do it either.