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> The DailyStormer got "canceled" by vendors for not even trying to moderate content that actively promoted violence (among other horrible things). Now Parlor g

by danans 6y ago

> The DailyStormer got "canceled" by vendors for not even trying to moderate content that actively promoted violence (among other horrible things). Now Parlor gets "canceled" by vendors for not doing a good enough job trying to moderate content promoting violence. There is no daylight between the the Daily Stormer and Parler with respect to their willingness to distribute content that promotes far right violence. They also share that same objective as their founding motivation. Just different branding.

hinkley 6y ago
As someone who is in theory trying to write software for community-sourced documentation and advice, I've been dragging my heels for years watching things play out on reddit and facebook and twitter and now these buffoons and I just don't know if I'm up to the task. My best defense seems to be trying to keep the niche as small as possible and still be worth my while to do the work, and to be perfectly honest, as 'realistic' as I like to be, saying "keep it small" to myself drains quite a bit of motivation out of me.
- danans 6y ago
  > "keep it small" to myself drains quite a bit of motivation out of me. Just moderate the platform to remove content that is an incitement to violence or the commission of violent crime. That's a pretty low bar to meet.
  - hinkley 6y ago
    So just read and judge every piece of text entered into the whole platform, 24/7, 365.2425 days a year, both in and out of context.
    - danans 6y ago
      > So just read and judge every piece of text entered into the whole platform No. Not at all. We're software engineers, right? Make the machines do the heavy lifting. Create a simple keyword based alerting mechanism for known inflammatory language in the languages that you support. There are resources to help you make this easier in multiple languages, i.e. https://hatespeechdata.com/ https://hatespeechdata.com/ Add a moderation system for your users to flag abusive content. Until you grow to a huge size, or unless your platform is courting violence promoting content, there should be a relatively small amount of content you need to manually review and remove.
      - nwmcsween 6y ago
        twitter did this, IIRC they needed to turn it off as it was flagging almost all republicans
        danans 6y ago
        I seriously doubt that Twitter has no system that internally flags potentially abusive or violent tweets using machine automated classifiers. This stuff is table stakes nowadays for any major service that accepts user generated data.

by danans 6y ago

hinkley 6y ago

As someone who is in theory trying to write software for community-sourced documentation and advice, I've been dragging my heels for years watching things play out on reddit and facebook and twitter and now these buffoons and I just don't know if I'm up to the task. My best defense seems to be trying to keep the niche as small as possible and still be worth my while to do the work, and to be perfectly honest, as 'realistic' as I like to be, saying "keep it small" to myself drains quite a bit of motivation out of me.

danans 6y ago
> "keep it small" to myself drains quite a bit of motivation out of me. Just moderate the platform to remove content that is an incitement to violence or the commission of violent crime. That's a pretty low bar to meet.
- hinkley 6y ago
  So just read and judge every piece of text entered into the whole platform, 24/7, 365.2425 days a year, both in and out of context.
  - danans 6y ago
    > So just read and judge every piece of text entered into the whole platform No. Not at all. We're software engineers, right? Make the machines do the heavy lifting. Create a simple keyword based alerting mechanism for known inflammatory language in the languages that you support. There are resources to help you make this easier in multiple languages, i.e. https://hatespeechdata.com/ https://hatespeechdata.com/ Add a moderation system for your users to flag abusive content. Until you grow to a huge size, or unless your platform is courting violence promoting content, there should be a relatively small amount of content you need to manually review and remove.
    - nwmcsween 6y ago
      twitter did this, IIRC they needed to turn it off as it was flagging almost all republicans
      - danans 6y ago
        I seriously doubt that Twitter has no system that internally flags potentially abusive or violent tweets using machine automated classifiers. This stuff is table stakes nowadays for any major service that accepts user generated data.