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Just get Firefox. Brave has ads, including annoying desktop pop ups!

anderber 6y ago
You have to active choose in the settings to get ads. And if you do, you get "paid" in crypto for getting them. But I also like Firefox.
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strig 6y ago
But does FF have an adblocker on iOS?
jonathansampson 6y ago
"Brave has ads" is a good thing. Please, allow me to explain :) When you launch Firefox for the first time, you're already being setup and prepared to be served to Google. Your data and more are being primed. The address bar serves as a key-logger, and your inputs (before ever explicitly navigating anywhere) are being sent to Google. Brave's ad notifications are opt-in; you have to turn them on. You decide their frequency. They're built on privacy. Users in a common region (e.g. United States) share a regional catalog. Your browser downloads a copy of this catalog, studies it locally, and decides when/if it should show any of the ads listed therein. When a Brave Ad is displayed, 70% of the revenue goes into a digital wallet. When you see an ad in Firefox, there's a good chance you just lost a little bit of your data, and received nothing in return. In Brave, these rewards stack up, and can be passively or actively distributed to the sites and properties you appreciate most online.
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- 0-_-0 6y ago
  I have one remaining worry about Brave: If I choose to auto-contribute to sites, would it be possible to deanonymize me and derive what I look at from the BAT blockchain? E.g. if someone knows some of the sites I look at can they find out the rest?
  - jonathansampson 6y ago
    These contributions aren't made on the public blockchain, so there is no way (not even for Brave) to know which site(s) you're supporting. Note also that (by default) the Brave Rewards wallet has no requirement for KYC. As such, there is no information about [you] connected to these transactions.
    - 0-_-0 6y ago
      Thank you for your answers in this thread. There's a lot of misinformation about Brave on HN.
- TheCapeGreek 6y ago
  While your arguments make sense, I find the continuous calling of other browsers as having keyloggers disingenuous. The only difference for Brave you've mentioned elsewhere in the thread is that it's opt-in by default instead of opt-out, which is fair. Also, by this logic any text field that does something with your input before explicitly pressing a submit button is also a keylogger. That just doesn't make sense.
  - jonathansampson 6y ago
    When an application sends your keystrokes (or an accidental/unintended paste) off to a third-party without your consent, I think it is fair to call that a keylogger. > …by this logic any text field that does something with your input before explicitly pressing a submit button is also a keylogger. I respectfully disagree, since there are many things a text field can do with input which doesn't violate the user privacy (e.g. local spell-checking, input sanitization). My objection is with the automatic transmission of keystrokes to third-parties without the explicit consent of the user. Whether we agree to call this "key-logging" or not isn't as important. We can both agree that this could result in the unintended sharing of very sensitive data—that's the point I'm trying to make. Cheers!
christophilus 6y ago
Brave doesn't have popups unless you explicitly go out of your way to ask for them. Out of the Box, the web is quite a nice experience with Brave, which is not the case with any other browser I know of. Brave does have ads in the browser's empty tab. I'm fine with that, if that's how they monetize it. I've even clicked on a few because they were interesting to me, which I haven't done in years on any other platform.
lmedinas 6y ago
if Brave blockers are not enough you can get uBlock origin.
- jonathansampson 6y ago
  Brave and uBlock Origin use common lists. One area where uBO goes a step further than Brave is in cosmetic filtering. That said, we're going to be pushing some updates this year which bring Brave up to speed in this category.
  - lmedinas 6y ago
    @Jonathansampson will Brave adopt Manifest V3 (which will in principle remove some functionality from adblockers) from Chrome/Chromium ? Or do you plan to use your own solution ?

You have to active choose in the settings to get ads. And if you do, you get "paid" in crypto for getting them. But I also like Firefox.

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strig 6y ago

But does FF have an adblocker on iOS?

jonathansampson 6y ago

"Brave has ads" is a good thing. Please, allow me to explain :) When you launch Firefox for the first time, you're already being setup and prepared to be served to Google. Your data and more are being primed. The address bar serves as a key-logger, and your inputs (before ever explicitly navigating anywhere) are being sent to Google. Brave's ad notifications are opt-in; you have to turn them on. You decide their frequency. They're built on privacy. Users in a common region (e.g. United States) share a regional catalog. Your browser downloads a copy of this catalog, studies it locally, and decides when/if it should show any of the ads listed therein. When a Brave Ad is displayed, 70% of the revenue goes into a digital wallet. When you see an ad in Firefox, there's a good chance you just lost a little bit of your data, and received nothing in return. In Brave, these rewards stack up, and can be passively or actively distributed to the sites and properties you appreciate most online.

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0-_-0 6y ago
I have one remaining worry about Brave: If I choose to auto-contribute to sites, would it be possible to deanonymize me and derive what I look at from the BAT blockchain? E.g. if someone knows some of the sites I look at can they find out the rest?
- jonathansampson 6y ago
  These contributions aren't made on the public blockchain, so there is no way (not even for Brave) to know which site(s) you're supporting. Note also that (by default) the Brave Rewards wallet has no requirement for KYC. As such, there is no information about [you] connected to these transactions.
  - 0-_-0 6y ago
    Thank you for your answers in this thread. There's a lot of misinformation about Brave on HN.
TheCapeGreek 6y ago
While your arguments make sense, I find the continuous calling of other browsers as having keyloggers disingenuous. The only difference for Brave you've mentioned elsewhere in the thread is that it's opt-in by default instead of opt-out, which is fair. Also, by this logic any text field that does something with your input before explicitly pressing a submit button is also a keylogger. That just doesn't make sense.
- jonathansampson 6y ago
  When an application sends your keystrokes (or an accidental/unintended paste) off to a third-party without your consent, I think it is fair to call that a keylogger. > …by this logic any text field that does something with your input before explicitly pressing a submit button is also a keylogger. I respectfully disagree, since there are many things a text field can do with input which doesn't violate the user privacy (e.g. local spell-checking, input sanitization). My objection is with the automatic transmission of keystrokes to third-parties without the explicit consent of the user. Whether we agree to call this "key-logging" or not isn't as important. We can both agree that this could result in the unintended sharing of very sensitive data—that's the point I'm trying to make. Cheers!

christophilus 6y ago

Brave doesn't have popups unless you explicitly go out of your way to ask for them. Out of the Box, the web is quite a nice experience with Brave, which is not the case with any other browser I know of. Brave does have ads in the browser's empty tab. I'm fine with that, if that's how they monetize it. I've even clicked on a few because they were interesting to me, which I haven't done in years on any other platform.

lmedinas 6y ago

if Brave blockers are not enough you can get uBlock origin.

jonathansampson 6y ago
Brave and uBlock Origin use common lists. One area where uBO goes a step further than Brave is in cosmetic filtering. That said, we're going to be pushing some updates this year which bring Brave up to speed in this category.
- lmedinas 6y ago
  @Jonathansampson will Brave adopt Manifest V3 (which will in principle remove some functionality from adblockers) from Chrome/Chromium ? Or do you plan to use your own solution ?