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Isn't that exactly the point? Apple removed them because: Parler has not taken adequate measures to address the proliferation of these threats to people’s safet

Isn't that exactly the point? Apple removed them because: Parler has not taken adequate measures to address the proliferation of these threats to people’s safety. We have suspended Parler from the App Store until they resolve these issues And AWS said: “Recently, we’ve seen a steady increase in this violent content on your website, all of which violates our terms," the email reads. "It’s clear that Parler does not have an effective process to comply with the AWS terms of service.” If they were removing the illegal content, then why did AWS say they don't have an effective process to remove it? If they can show that they already have effective moderation, then they should win their lawsuit against AWS and quickly be back online.

nix23 6y ago
>If they were removing the illegal content, then why did AWS say they don't have an effective process to remove it? Because you get a Sympathy-Star-Sticker in your book and Amazon is the good guy who try's to safe the United States, it's more Marketing then real fear being extreme right wing. BTW: Wanna buy a real Postage stamp from Hitler? No Problem: https://www.amazon.com/STRIKING-ORIGINAL-ANNIVERSARY-SEIZING-Condition/dp/B0776KMHJ4 https://www.amazon.com/STRIKING-ORIGINAL-ANNIVERSARY-SEIZING... or a beautiful flag? https://www.amazon.ca/German-Imperial-Germany-Ensign-Flags/dp/B000P404MU https://www.amazon.ca/German-Imperial-Germany-Ensign-Flags/d... The original "Mein Kampf" without comments? https://www.amazon.ca/Mein-Kampf-Adolf-Hitler/dp/0395925037/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=mein+kampf+original&qid=1610396411&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.ca/Mein-Kampf-Adolf-Hitler/dp/0395925037/...
- Johnny555 6y ago
  Those items may be distasteful, but are they illegal? I'm not aware of a prohibition on selling Nazi memorabilia in this country. On the other hand, inciting violence is illegal: "by all the Patriots descending on Washington DC on #jan6 ....come armed...." Another expletive-laced message posted the day before the riot warned: "To all our enemies high and low you want a war? Well you're asking for one...To the American people on the ground in DC today and all over this great nation, be prepared for anything."
  - nix23 6y ago
    >"by all the Patriots descending on Washington DC on #jan6 ....come armed...." That's not violent per se, maybe the right wing is in fear of polar bears near the Capitol. Please don't get me wrong, but if you let big Marketplaces and not Justice make decisions whats right or wrong...well then that can go really fast the other way too.
    - lolc 6y ago
      Don't be silly. Courts will decide based on the meaning in context. A reasonable person may very well conclude that that quote is a call to arms. I mean I don't know how a court would interpret this specific example, but polar bears won't factor in their deliberation. The provisions against incitement of violence in the AWS TOS are standard. If Parler sues AWS, a court will actually decide on whether Parler violated the TOS. And I'm pretty sure that the AWS decision will hold. They didn't do this lightly. Refusing service to trolls is a standard occurrence. The justice system would be clogged immediately if it were forced to decide every TOS violation before the accused party could be banned.

nix23 6y ago

>If they were removing the illegal content, then why did AWS say they don't have an effective process to remove it? Because you get a Sympathy-Star-Sticker in your book and Amazon is the good guy who try's to safe the United States, it's more Marketing then real fear being extreme right wing. BTW: Wanna buy a real Postage stamp from Hitler? No Problem: https://www.amazon.com/STRIKING-ORIGINAL-ANNIVERSARY-SEIZING-Condition/dp/B0776KMHJ4 https://www.amazon.com/STRIKING-ORIGINAL-ANNIVERSARY-SEIZING... or a beautiful flag? https://www.amazon.ca/German-Imperial-Germany-Ensign-Flags/dp/B000P404MU https://www.amazon.ca/German-Imperial-Germany-Ensign-Flags/d... The original "Mein Kampf" without comments? https://www.amazon.ca/Mein-Kampf-Adolf-Hitler/dp/0395925037/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=mein+kampf+original&qid=1610396411&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.ca/Mein-Kampf-Adolf-Hitler/dp/0395925037/...

Johnny555 6y ago
Those items may be distasteful, but are they illegal? I'm not aware of a prohibition on selling Nazi memorabilia in this country. On the other hand, inciting violence is illegal: "by all the Patriots descending on Washington DC on #jan6 ....come armed...." Another expletive-laced message posted the day before the riot warned: "To all our enemies high and low you want a war? Well you're asking for one...To the American people on the ground in DC today and all over this great nation, be prepared for anything."
- nix23 6y ago
  >"by all the Patriots descending on Washington DC on #jan6 ....come armed...." That's not violent per se, maybe the right wing is in fear of polar bears near the Capitol. Please don't get me wrong, but if you let big Marketplaces and not Justice make decisions whats right or wrong...well then that can go really fast the other way too.
  - lolc 6y ago
    Don't be silly. Courts will decide based on the meaning in context. A reasonable person may very well conclude that that quote is a call to arms. I mean I don't know how a court would interpret this specific example, but polar bears won't factor in their deliberation. The provisions against incitement of violence in the AWS TOS are standard. If Parler sues AWS, a court will actually decide on whether Parler violated the TOS. And I'm pretty sure that the AWS decision will hold. They didn't do this lightly. Refusing service to trolls is a standard occurrence. The justice system would be clogged immediately if it were forced to decide every TOS violation before the accused party could be banned.