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nobunaga 6y ago
+1 to exactly what? Scammy behaviour from a product that can potentially watch and track your every move? https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff...
- matthewrobertso 6y ago
  You've linked the same article on nearly every thread on this post, why is changing affiliate links for cryptocurrency important?
  - nobunaga 6y ago
    A piece of software injecting behaviour that aims to benefit the CEO of the company and earn him money should be considered what exactly? Have you ever seen any other browser do anything like that? I think you are simplifying the issues here. They did not advertise what they did, and only changed their behavior when they were caught out. I can point to quite a few other things Brave has done that is similar in nature. I think people should be informed about the product before considering using it since it pops up on HN once every 3 months.
    - matthewrobertso 6y ago
      The article you linked doesn't support your assertions and the linked explanation tweet from their CEO seems pretty reasonable: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192 https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192 I don't see how I was simplifying the issue by asking you a question. It also seems to me like you are reaching for a reason to discredit the browser.
      - nobunaga 6y ago
        Its ok to differ on the opinion about wether an explanation is reasonable or not and we differ on that. How one can make that mistake to me is a bit worrisome. To me, thats not a developer bug (nor does their explanation provide any proof that it is), its an intentional way for someone to benefit financially without informing their users. Also have a look at the +1 posters history. Some more interesting behaviour. If you want and care, do some of your own research on some of the other 'mistakrs' brave and their CEO have done. Ive never seen such mistakes happen regularly with other browsers that have been around longer. Feel free to use Brave, Im just informing the public.
- jonathansampson 6y ago
  What are you suggesting? Fire up Fiddler today, and spend a few minutes or more observing Brave's network activity. You will find no instance where Brave (the company and developers) are watching or tracking users; it's against our very core. You keep linking to the affiliate suggestion as though it were something alarming; it isn't. And that's the response from those in the InfoSec community. To pair this mistake with the ominous warning that Brave "can potentially watch and track your every move" is silly.

+1 to exactly what? Scammy behaviour from a product that can potentially watch and track your every move? https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff...

matthewrobertso 6y ago
You've linked the same article on nearly every thread on this post, why is changing affiliate links for cryptocurrency important?
- nobunaga 6y ago
  A piece of software injecting behaviour that aims to benefit the CEO of the company and earn him money should be considered what exactly? Have you ever seen any other browser do anything like that? I think you are simplifying the issues here. They did not advertise what they did, and only changed their behavior when they were caught out. I can point to quite a few other things Brave has done that is similar in nature. I think people should be informed about the product before considering using it since it pops up on HN once every 3 months.
  - matthewrobertso 6y ago
    The article you linked doesn't support your assertions and the linked explanation tweet from their CEO seems pretty reasonable: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192 https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192 I don't see how I was simplifying the issue by asking you a question. It also seems to me like you are reaching for a reason to discredit the browser.
    - nobunaga 6y ago
      Its ok to differ on the opinion about wether an explanation is reasonable or not and we differ on that. How one can make that mistake to me is a bit worrisome. To me, thats not a developer bug (nor does their explanation provide any proof that it is), its an intentional way for someone to benefit financially without informing their users. Also have a look at the +1 posters history. Some more interesting behaviour. If you want and care, do some of your own research on some of the other 'mistakrs' brave and their CEO have done. Ive never seen such mistakes happen regularly with other browsers that have been around longer. Feel free to use Brave, Im just informing the public.
jonathansampson 6y ago
What are you suggesting? Fire up Fiddler today, and spend a few minutes or more observing Brave's network activity. You will find no instance where Brave (the company and developers) are watching or tracking users; it's against our very core. You keep linking to the affiliate suggestion as though it were something alarming; it isn't. And that's the response from those in the InfoSec community. To pair this mistake with the ominous warning that Brave "can potentially watch and track your every move" is silly.