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The problem that Signal has to solve, transfer of new messages to a new phone. Right now the iOS transfer is a whole lot better than the manual android process

The problem that Signal has to solve, transfer of new messages to a new phone. Right now the iOS transfer is a whole lot better than the manual android process ( ive heard the former is not fool proof ) Being a house full of Pixel devices and sole IT person, I dont want to be responsible for lost messages when it comes time for a new phone. Also if your phone is lost or bricked ( either platform ) say goodbye to messages Moving from Android to iOS, bye messages. I can move my savvier friends and family over, but the rest will remain on whatsapp where "its easier" compromise works.

beagle3 6y ago
You can’t move WhatsApp message history between iOS and WhatsApp.
- bilal4hmed 6y ago
  fair enough, still whatsapp android to android OR ios to ios is easier than Signal
FreakyT 6y ago
Exactly this. A lot of other messaging apps have this problem (read the App Store reviews of LINE for a sampler of people upset about it), and I find it baffling. Have these devs never lost a phone (or had one break unexpectedly?) It seems like it should be trivial to back up message history to the cloud.
- sliken 6y ago
  Well trick is, once your phone is lost, will you remember a nice secure key? How do you protect from various evil entities from stealing your cloud backups?
  - FreakyT 6y ago
    The cloud backups themselves could be encrypted with a key that I control, couldn’t they?
sliken 6y ago
I just migrated from a pixel 4xl -> 5 and back with signal. Nobody noticed, no warnings about encryption keys changing, no problems whatsoever. Took about 5 minutes each time (including googling of the directions). Just make a backup (with an encryption key), then do a restore (and enter said key). Not as convenient as if it was automatic, but it does seem like a pretty secure approach.
- bilal4hmed 6y ago
  thats good to hear. Now I would like to see something on the desktop client
  - sliken 6y ago
    I had to relink my desktop client, but the history stayed.
    - bilal4hmed 6y ago
      on a new PC ?? the conversations came over ??
      - sliken 6y ago
        No. Had a desktop client linked to my phone. Migrated to a new phone, relinked the desktop client, and lost nothing.

beagle3 6y ago

You can’t move WhatsApp message history between iOS and WhatsApp.

bilal4hmed 6y ago
fair enough, still whatsapp android to android OR ios to ios is easier than Signal

FreakyT 6y ago

Exactly this. A lot of other messaging apps have this problem (read the App Store reviews of LINE for a sampler of people upset about it), and I find it baffling. Have these devs never lost a phone (or had one break unexpectedly?) It seems like it should be trivial to back up message history to the cloud.

sliken 6y ago
Well trick is, once your phone is lost, will you remember a nice secure key? How do you protect from various evil entities from stealing your cloud backups?
- FreakyT 6y ago
  The cloud backups themselves could be encrypted with a key that I control, couldn’t they?

sliken 6y ago

I just migrated from a pixel 4xl -> 5 and back with signal. Nobody noticed, no warnings about encryption keys changing, no problems whatsoever. Took about 5 minutes each time (including googling of the directions). Just make a backup (with an encryption key), then do a restore (and enter said key). Not as convenient as if it was automatic, but it does seem like a pretty secure approach.

bilal4hmed 6y ago
thats good to hear. Now I would like to see something on the desktop client
- sliken 6y ago
  I had to relink my desktop client, but the history stayed.
  - bilal4hmed 6y ago
    on a new PC ?? the conversations came over ??
    - sliken 6y ago
      No. Had a desktop client linked to my phone. Migrated to a new phone, relinked the desktop client, and lost nothing.