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Hackernews starts you off shadowbanned too. It’s a way to ward off spammers and bots. I know because this account started off shadow banned for 1-2 weeks until
by hertzrat 6y ago
Hackernews starts you off shadowbanned too. It’s a way to ward off spammers and bots. I know because this account started off shadow banned for 1-2 weeks until I had made 5-10 posts. Edit: Why in earth is this getting downvoted so heavily? Every new account everyone I know ever made was shadow banned at first
- mkl 6y agoHN doesn't start users shadow banned - just look for the green new-account usernames. Your account didn't start shadow banned either. Here's your first comment, visible to all: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25410162 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25410162 New accounts are more likely to get shadow banned, especially if they post many comments with links or post inflammatory remarks.
- hertzrat 6y agoWhen you make a new account and view a thread You post in for the first week to so, gour comments are absent absent unless you are logged in. That’s what a shadow ban is. It can be removed and it happens to every new hn account I’ve ever seen. It gets removed after a week or so. That “inflammatory” post about a game prototype you linked was not visible for even a second in that thread until a week or two had passed
- mkl 6y agoI never claimed your post was inflammatory. It does, however, contain a link. What the link is to doesn't matter, but accounts that post links in their first comments are likely to be automatically tagged as spam, which I'm guessing is what happened to you. It doesn't happen to all HN accounts, as you can see by all the brand-new green accounts posting in political threads lately.
- saagarjha 6y agoHacker News does start off many people with a shadowban–I know because I have vouched for many of these initial comments.
- Wowfunhappy 6y agoI believe that happens when HN suspects the account is from a person who was banned previously, based on IP's and/or some other heuristic. I've seen dang say something like "If you create new accounts to break the guidelines, eventually we just start banning your new accounts."
- saagarjha 6y agoPerhaps! It might be that these people were unfortunate to share a network with someone malicious (maybe a university, or a company) and this dooms their initial comments.
- mkl 6y agoI have vouched for dead initial comments too, but usually there was a clear reason they were like that, like a link.
- andreareina 6y agoIs it really a shadowban if you could vouch for them? Shadowban is when the poster sees their stuff looking normal and no-one else (modulo mods) sees it at all right?
- saagarjha 6y agoBy default, nobody sees those comments–you have to go to showdead in your profile to enable it. I keep it on because it gives me occasional insight into the dregs of the site and the effort that goes into moderating it, but also lets me save the insightful comments that get killed (or, very rarely, erroneously flagged.)
- andreareina 6y agoRight, I showdead for similar reasons. I figured that shadowbanning would prevent even showdead from revealing those comments, but apparently not: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23686672 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23686672
- deadmetheny 6y agoBecause it's wrong, new accounts absolutely do not get shadowbanned. People make burner accounts for 2-3 anonymous posts all the time.