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>I haven't seen amazon claim that Parler broke the law. They have a TOS policy that forbids the hosting of illegal content. If Amazon is saying Parler hosted "

>I haven't seen amazon claim that Parler broke the law. They have a TOS policy that forbids the hosting of illegal content. If Amazon is saying Parler hosted "illegal content" then they are saying they broke the law. How can it be any other way? >If a AWS customer is hosting child porn, does AWS take it down as soon as they're aware of the content, or do they wait for a court ruling? Child porn is illegal, hate speech (and in lots of places, "incitement") is not. In fact, in many jurisdictions the latter are protected speech. There is no moral equivalence here. Society's rules are clear on child porn. They are less clear on what constitutes incitement. That should be evident if you're following these events. >It's not power. "ALCU Counsel Warns of Unchecked Power of Twitter, Facebook After Trump Suspension" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/aclu-counsel-warns-of-unchecked-power-of-twitter-facebook-after-trump-suspension/ar-BB1cC029 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/aclu-counsel-warns-o...

klyrs 6y ago
> If Amazon is saying Parler hosted "illegal content" then they are saying they broke the law. How can it be any other way? Because I'm not clear on the specific exemptions for section 230. I can't say one way or another whether Parler itself broke the law. > That's kind of the point here. Society's rules are clear on child porn. They are less clear on what constitutes incitement. That should be evident if you're following these events. Did people openly plan an armed attack on the capitol building? Yes. Did people follow through on aforementioned plans? Yes. Violence was incited. Having read quite a few relevant posts on Parler, I'm reasonably sure that their users broke the law. There is a lot of gray area between voicing frustration and incitement, but this is not one of those cases.
Znafon 6y ago
> Child porn is illegal, hate speech (and in lots of places, "incitement") is not. Isn't "imminent lawless action" the limit of free speech? it seems clear after January 6th that a part of what was promoted on Parler was both imminent and lawless.
- itsoktocry 6y ago
  >it seems clear after January 6th that a part of what was promoted on Parler was both imminent and lawless. Assuming the people planning on Parler were some of the same people who stormed the Capitol then yes, absolutely. With the benefit of hindsight, this was incitement, potentially criminal. Now the tricky part: from Parler's perspective, content that at one minute is "free speech" is suddenly illegal, or at the very least ToS breaking, in a matter of hours. Were they given a reasonable amount of time to remove the content (and what good would that even do, after the fact)? Did Amazon make Parler a political target, and arbitrarily apply a rule to them that they did not apply to other customers (Twitter)? Likely, imho. Does any of it even matter if "businesses can do what they want"?

klyrs 6y ago

> If Amazon is saying Parler hosted "illegal content" then they are saying they broke the law. How can it be any other way? Because I'm not clear on the specific exemptions for section 230. I can't say one way or another whether Parler itself broke the law. > That's kind of the point here. Society's rules are clear on child porn. They are less clear on what constitutes incitement. That should be evident if you're following these events. Did people openly plan an armed attack on the capitol building? Yes. Did people follow through on aforementioned plans? Yes. Violence was incited. Having read quite a few relevant posts on Parler, I'm reasonably sure that their users broke the law. There is a lot of gray area between voicing frustration and incitement, but this is not one of those cases.

Znafon 6y ago

> Child porn is illegal, hate speech (and in lots of places, "incitement") is not. Isn't "imminent lawless action" the limit of free speech? it seems clear after January 6th that a part of what was promoted on Parler was both imminent and lawless.

itsoktocry 6y ago
>it seems clear after January 6th that a part of what was promoted on Parler was both imminent and lawless. Assuming the people planning on Parler were some of the same people who stormed the Capitol then yes, absolutely. With the benefit of hindsight, this was incitement, potentially criminal. Now the tricky part: from Parler's perspective, content that at one minute is "free speech" is suddenly illegal, or at the very least ToS breaking, in a matter of hours. Were they given a reasonable amount of time to remove the content (and what good would that even do, after the fact)? Did Amazon make Parler a political target, and arbitrarily apply a rule to them that they did not apply to other customers (Twitter)? Likely, imho. Does any of it even matter if "businesses can do what they want"?