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They don't allow companies like Perler to signup. What Perler used AWS for is prohibited by the TOS and AUP that Perler agreed to. It just took a while for AWS

They don't allow companies like Perler to signup. What Perler used AWS for is prohibited by the TOS and AUP that Perler agreed to. It just took a while for AWS to notice and enforce the legal agreement that Perler agreed to abide by. Perler lied right from the beginning (because they had no intention of abiding by their agreement) to get AWS to provide service they would never have provided had Perler been honest from the start. Also the cake issue is different because discriminating based on sexual orientation was prohibited by the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act. Colorado (the state I live in) has every right to pass laws to govern it's citizens. What happened to state's rights? To me these are very clear: You either believe contracts and laws can be enforced, or you don't.

jeffreyrogers 6y ago
Colorado lost the cake lawsuit. If anything that makes my claim stronger.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > Colorado lost the cake lawsuit. If anything that makes my claim stronger. But not much (though not doing much to make it stronger is still not making it weaker), because it didn’t lose it on the kinds of grounds people on either side wanted the case decided on for a decisive win, but because based on the details of the proceedings in his case the Court found specific animus against Phillips’ religious views in the handling of the particular case by State officials.
  - jeffreyrogers 6y ago
    Yes, that is true. Although as you hinted at, the Supreme Court didn't really want to rule on the issue that people were interested in (how to balance freedom of association with protected classes). They've punted on other similarly contentious issues as well (e.g. when NYC mooted a 2nd amendment case by changing its laws went the case when to the Supreme Court).
zests 6y ago
In this world, service providers should create TOS that are as complicated as possible so that practically every company is violating them. The terms can then be applied "as needed".
- joshstrange 6y ago
  You mean like the laws in this (US) country?

jeffreyrogers 6y ago

Colorado lost the cake lawsuit. If anything that makes my claim stronger.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> Colorado lost the cake lawsuit. If anything that makes my claim stronger. But not much (though not doing much to make it stronger is still not making it weaker), because it didn’t lose it on the kinds of grounds people on either side wanted the case decided on for a decisive win, but because based on the details of the proceedings in his case the Court found specific animus against Phillips’ religious views in the handling of the particular case by State officials.
- jeffreyrogers 6y ago
  Yes, that is true. Although as you hinted at, the Supreme Court didn't really want to rule on the issue that people were interested in (how to balance freedom of association with protected classes). They've punted on other similarly contentious issues as well (e.g. when NYC mooted a 2nd amendment case by changing its laws went the case when to the Supreme Court).

zests 6y ago

In this world, service providers should create TOS that are as complicated as possible so that practically every company is violating them. The terms can then be applied "as needed".

joshstrange 6y ago
You mean like the laws in this (US) country?