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Wow, lots of hysteria. I was hoping to find a comment that said something like the following: It sucks that things like this still happen. I've seen or heard a
by sgentle 15y ago
Wow, lots of hysteria. I was hoping to find a comment that said something like the following:
It sucks that things like this still happen. I've seen or heard about a few stories like this and it's heartbreaking to think that the industry I love can cause such pain to people. Worse still is the thought that these incidents punish everyone, from the women who are turned away to other, less risky fields, to the managers who struggle to find competent female hires, to the other men who get unfairly tarred for just being in the same gender.
I understand it's tempting to say "but this might be made up!" - yes, it might. We don't have any facts and we should be cautious not to use it as an excuse for a witch hunt. But would you be surprised if it was true? Put-money-on-it surprised? If not, that's problem enough. These things happen and we know it.
The thing that gets me is that theoretically HN is a place for people who aren't satisfied with "oh well, that's how it goes", who instead disrupt and innovate, who find novel solutions to problems nobody thought solvable (or even worth solving), and who change the world for the better in the process. Where's that spirit now? Surely we can find a way to make things like this less frequent or less damaging?
- Mz 15y agoSurely we can find a way to make things like this less frequent or less damaging? I hesitate to say this, but I think women have some power to make this better. Yes, there are men who are real pigs. It happens. But I'm a former homemaker and now have a job with BigCo and a) most of the women's fashions shown in magazines and such would get me sent home if I showed up at work dressed like that b) in spite of that fact (I mean that the dress code is intended to prevent this), there are still women who show up at my place of employment looking hookerific c) the last time I saw a story of this sort (ie some woman talking about her negative experiences with sexism) on HN, I was dumbfounded that the woman who wrote it stupidly said things that could be interpreted as a come-on/opening after the man had made it clear he was hitting on her, so I then googled her image and in most pictures of her she was displaying cleavage and so on. I don't say this to "blame the victim". I say this because if you are a woman and you want real power, acting on the piece of it you have control over is a much more empowered position than whining about how "men are still pigs" or some such. Just trying to respond to your actual request for something positive and pro-active. Peace.
- jgesture 15y agoI definitely found reading posts in this thread rather bizarre. This has become more of a spectacle than an event that happened to an actual human being.