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Haven't the press switched away from at least one of his conferences? I think it would be interesting for him to try to hold a press conference to see if the b

Haven't the press switched away from at least one of his conferences? I think it would be interesting for him to try to hold a press conference to see if the broadcast media would even carry it

evanb 6y ago
They switch away when he begins spouting unmitigated lies, which is a responsible form of journalism.
- ars 6y ago
  Do they? When he spouted the nonsense about "disinfectants" they didn't switch away - they made it front page news for days. Be consistent, either refuse the cover the lies, or cover all of them. Don't just cover the lies that make you look good. Or more accurately: Don't just cover the lies that get lots of outrage (AKA views), without getting "too much" outrage of course, because that gets people killed.
  - evanb 6y ago
    Yes, they do. While it took years, the falsehoods he spread during the pandemic and during the run-up to the election convinced many newsmedia outlets to cut him off. In other words, they learned. Consistency is not to be desired above all else---it is healthy to change one's mind and behavior when presented with new evidence or circumstances, which is what those outlets did.
monkeyfacebag 6y ago
Harder to blame "big tech" in that case! I guarantee you that if he called into Fox, his comments would be carried by every media outlet and discussed exhaustively on Twitter.
- ars 6y ago
  Are you saying the solution is to make sure you have a large and powerful media organization on your side?
  - monkeyfacebag 6y ago
    Of course not. Where do I say that? Please don't attempt to slide me into a position I didn't take. That's bad faith. For the record, if Trump called up Maggie Haberman and gave an on-the-record interview, I'm sure that would get covered too!
maxerickson 6y ago
I think the test is probably whether White House statements are reasonably available to people. For instance, lots of media don't cover any White House press conferences, never mind carry them live and so on. The discussion around social media then gets split in two; what is currently legal, and what should be legal. Trump probably doesn't have any current legal right to force Twitter (or CNN) to carry his message. But maybe there should be some laws about what Twitter can't moderate.
tzs 6y ago
I know some NPR stations stopped live coverage of some Trump briefings [1]. They still covered them, but not live. [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2020/03/26/821327277/opinion-nprs-evolving-coverage-of-live-white-house-coronavirus-briefings https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2020/03/26/8213272...

Haven't the press switched away from at least one of his conferences? I think it would be interesting for him to try to hold a press conference to see if the broadcast media would even carry it

evanb 6y ago

They switch away when he begins spouting unmitigated lies, which is a responsible form of journalism.

ars 6y ago
Do they? When he spouted the nonsense about "disinfectants" they didn't switch away - they made it front page news for days. Be consistent, either refuse the cover the lies, or cover all of them. Don't just cover the lies that make you look good. Or more accurately: Don't just cover the lies that get lots of outrage (AKA views), without getting "too much" outrage of course, because that gets people killed.
- evanb 6y ago
  Yes, they do. While it took years, the falsehoods he spread during the pandemic and during the run-up to the election convinced many newsmedia outlets to cut him off. In other words, they learned. Consistency is not to be desired above all else---it is healthy to change one's mind and behavior when presented with new evidence or circumstances, which is what those outlets did.

monkeyfacebag 6y ago

Harder to blame "big tech" in that case! I guarantee you that if he called into Fox, his comments would be carried by every media outlet and discussed exhaustively on Twitter.

ars 6y ago
Are you saying the solution is to make sure you have a large and powerful media organization on your side?
- monkeyfacebag 6y ago
  Of course not. Where do I say that? Please don't attempt to slide me into a position I didn't take. That's bad faith. For the record, if Trump called up Maggie Haberman and gave an on-the-record interview, I'm sure that would get covered too!

maxerickson 6y ago

I think the test is probably whether White House statements are reasonably available to people. For instance, lots of media don't cover any White House press conferences, never mind carry them live and so on. The discussion around social media then gets split in two; what is currently legal, and what should be legal. Trump probably doesn't have any current legal right to force Twitter (or CNN) to carry his message. But maybe there should be some laws about what Twitter can't moderate.

tzs 6y ago

I know some NPR stations stopped live coverage of some Trump briefings [1]. They still covered them, but not live. [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2020/03/26/821327277/opinion-nprs-evolving-coverage-of-live-white-house-coronavirus-briefings https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2020/03/26/8213272...